February 1st, 2013 at 8:53 AM ^

The overall series record between Clemson and South Carolina is 65-41-4 in favor of Clemson.

Since 1980, the record is 21-11 in favor of Clemson.

Since 1990, the record is 14-9 in favor of Clemson

Since 2000, the record is 7-6 in favor of Clemson.

Tell us again how Clemson is Michigan State and South Carolina is Michigan?

Doc Brown

February 1st, 2013 at 9:43 AM ^

Academics. My wife's side of the family is from Charleston, SC. The Clemson fan base are the redneck brah's of the rivalry. South Carolina fans are bit more mature and refined. 

Clemson's campus is a giant trash heap as well. My crew team in college spent spring training in clemson. There is maybe one stop light and that's it. 


February 1st, 2013 at 11:06 AM ^

South Carolina.  South Caroilna is... they have only recently become relevant  comparatively speaking with the hire's of Holtz and Spurrier.

Clemson's overall record is 668–450–45 with  68 All-Americans, 15 Academic All-Americans, and 169 NFL players.

USC on the other hand is 566-544-44.   With 20 All-Americans.

Clemson has 18 conference titles vs South Carolina's 1

And 1 National vs South Carolina's 0.

My parents retired to the Clemson area and yes they are a sleeping giant. 



January 31st, 2013 at 10:15 PM ^

This list is dumb. These coaches are all selling great products (Swinnney aside). What about James Franklin and Hugh Freeze who both have higher ranked classes than Clemson?


January 31st, 2013 at 10:29 PM ^

Another thing, people love to talk about how guys like Meyer, Hoke and Kelly are great recruiters. Go look at the recruits they were pulling in at Utah, BGSU, Ball St., SDSU, CMU and Cinci. Seriously go do it. They weren't lighting the recruiting world on fire by any stretch and now that they're in power jobs BOOM five stars. That's not to say these guys aren't doing great jobs for their schools, but they get a bit too much credit.


January 31st, 2013 at 10:42 PM ^

Yeah but look at all the other power schools they're competing against.  Recruiting at those small schools and recruiting against the big boys are completely different games with different goals.  Look at how much better Hoke is recruiting than he who must not be named for fear of starting a thread destroying broken record.  Recruiting for Michigan is quite obviously not easy enough for any schmuck to succeed.  Nor is it at any other school.


January 31st, 2013 at 11:10 PM ^

There aren't many schools that have that kind of pull. USC, Florida, LSU, Alabama, Texas OK. Maybe Georgia, you can add FSU when they're up. Tennessee, Miami and Oklahoma are worthy of some consideration, but OK and TN are basically Michigan with a worse recruiting footprint. 

Rodriguez was a schmuck when it came to recruiting. He alienated instate coaches and targeted many marginal talents with character issues early in the process. My favorite was in 2010 when he recruited five 3 star receivers (four of whom were his first commits in the class!) and one offensive lineman. This isn't a case of hindsight, I wailed insufferably about this as it was happening, too. Despite his ineptitude at talent evaluation and roster management even he did alright until he was firmly on the hot seat.


January 31st, 2013 at 10:52 PM ^

I hate Meijer with a passion. I find him to be such a self loathing, sore loser with little to no class at all. Ill never forget after Lloyd's last game Meijer goes on his weekly radio hour and have Michigan no credit at all. He said Percy Harvin wasn't at 100% and that Tim Tebow had a "undisclosed" injury preventing him from being effective. He went on to spout some BS on how they beat themselves and they beat Michigan 9 out of 10 times and unfortunately this was the one time. After that I lost any respect I had for him.

Once Tebow leaves and he realizes he can't compete with Saban anymore so he cites health problems and more time with family as why he quit. Then instead of taking a year off he goes to espn and travels around doing games and getting an inside look at our program. Everyone and their mother knew he was taking the ohio job and now his whiny little ass is back. People give him so much respect and I understand his success at bgsu, Utah, and UF warrant it to some degree, but they act like he's the second coming of Christ or something. He goes unbeaten his first year at ohio and the media salivates his every move just like the dog with the bell.

I believe Hoke is trying to mold us into a mirror image of Bama and Stanford. If Hoke continues to bring in great talent we have a real shot to snuff him and ohio out and become the Bama of the north so to speak. Or I suppose you could also say the old Wolverines. I can hardly even watch "The Game" anymore bc I hate Meijer that much. I imagine with the call and text restriction rule eliminated from recruiting he will finally be on a level playing field.

Rant over

Fuck you Meijer I will forever mis-spell your name and call your cheating ass team ohio.