Hoke: captains to be named after The Game

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on

Kind of interesting. Per the twitters.

There will be 4th and 5th year seniors at the coin toss.

So, pretty much the apostle system RR did from 2008-2009, but with seniors only. 

This could be my last thread for awhile. 

EDIT: After my first class today and taking my online, I'm not filled up with work. Yet. It won't be my last thread for awhile. You just won't see a 1000% percent chance of me posting 20 times a day like normally. 

not TOM BRADY

August 25th, 2014 at 11:54 AM ^

This clearly has something to do with the rumor from last year that there was a ton of friction between the team last year. The guys who lead will still lead. Jake, Devin and others will still be leaders.

Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad

Reader71

August 25th, 2014 at 11:58 AM ^

I hate it. I dont even really know how this would work in practice, because it is such an alien concept.

But I've been wrong before, and I hope to be wrong again.

reshp1

August 25th, 2014 at 12:13 PM ^

I think the "named" part is the operative part. They'll have leaders by some other name, but the honor of the official designation is a carrot Hoke is dangling over the team throughout the season. Practically and logistically speaking, I don't think it's going to be all that different than any other year.

Bodogblog

August 25th, 2014 at 12:51 PM ^

Hah!  You are awesome, I had forgotten about that.

I didn't mind it, thought the kids loved it and it pumped them up.  But I'm curious and I really don't remember - were Brian and some of the other gameday conservatives as up in arms about that as they were about Pop Evil?

Don't get me wrong, the muzac to me is one of the Brandon criticisms that ring true, and I hated Pop Evil.  But that was nearly a match in cheeseball factor.  I don't remember the same volume of complaints.

Alton

August 25th, 2014 at 5:06 PM ^

I feel the same about this as I do about the piped-in music at Yost as the hockey team warms up:  the music during the warmups is for the players, and the music during the games is for the fans. 

If the players want truly awful music during their pre-game stretching and warming up (and that's exactly what they seem to want, in both football and hockey), ok--give it to them.  If they find that "Started from the Bottom" by Drake inspires them to greatness, then play it for them while I try to ignore it.  But once the band takes over after warmups have ended, it's a different story. 

chatster

August 25th, 2014 at 12:06 PM ^

There have been some mentions of a "Leadership Council" comprised of four representatives from each class. (Not sure whether, as an example, this would treat both redshirt freshmen and true sophomores as members of the sophomore class because they're members of the same recruiting class, or if redshirt freshmen would be treated as members of the freshman class.)

Has the membership of the "Leadership Council" ever been disclosed?  If so, who are the members?

Maybe the idea of using game captains from the members of the senior class and the redshirt senior class is a way of rewarding "those who stay(ed)" for at least four years with the honor of representing the team at the coin toss.

If they're truly emphasizing, "The Team!  The Team! The Team!," then I might've liked them using four members of the "Leadership Council" (one from each class) plus a fifth team member selected for his efforts during the week's practices to represent the team at the coin toss for each game.

I also wonder whether, before Big Ten Media Days in July, Devin Gardner, Frank Clark and Jake Ryan were told that there would be game captains this season.  I would've thought that, as a returning team captain, Jake Ryan must've had some say in the decision to use game captains this season.

Brick in The Wave

August 25th, 2014 at 12:33 PM ^

but if it were me I would deemphasize the importance of captains.  If you are truly a leader you don't need the title and it sends the message that everybody is expected to lead some way while in the program.  Never been a big captain guy.  I like the idea.

Bill in Birmingham

August 25th, 2014 at 5:29 PM ^

If Michigan won 11 games last year, Hoke probably would have captains named before this season. It's not a huge deal, but I don't get it. Naming a captain after the season is just giving you something to put on your resume instead of putting you in a position where you are expected to lead. 

cobra14

August 25th, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^

As the seniors don't have strong leaders. Not naming them until the end of the year is as ridiculous as having a leadership council at Michigan. Hoke is supposed to be so in touch with Michigan tradition that he pulled a RR and totally spat it in it! Captains mean something at Michigan and is treated with the utmost respect. I' was shaking my head at RR when he ignored captains and I'm doing the same now.

LSAClassOf2000

August 25th, 2014 at 12:47 PM ^

Here is the MLive article on this very topic here - LINK

""We've got great leadership in our senior class, we really do, especially on defense and with Devin (Gardner), he's been absolutely fantastic," Hoke said. "But, at the same time, we've talked about leadership throughout the team. Throughout every class. We have a (leadership) representative group that's a big part of what we do."

I could be off here, but I think there is an element of getting everyone to exhibit leadership qualities throughout the team, and it goes hand-in-hand with some of the things that the players themselves have said throughout the month. I believe, for example, there was one interview in which someone mentioned that they are not just playing for their own sake but "playing for others", challenging everyone in their respective unit to be better and to be accountable. I think that has to be a team-wide notion if you want to see maximum success, and it is something that doesn't necessarily require annointed captainship. It is definitely an interesting approach, if this is the case, and best case scenario - it makes the team as a whole that much better. 

Perkis-Size Me

August 25th, 2014 at 1:54 PM ^

Hoke is the coach. I'm not. He's more in the knowledge on this stuff than I am, but at face value, this has the appearance of no one on the team stepping up (or stepping up enough) to be a leader. I hope I'm wrong, but if I remember correctly, Rodriguez did this too and I really didn't like it.

Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad

Yeezus

August 25th, 2014 at 2:54 PM ^

Oh yeah, that one year we beat them.  When they were terrible.  And we were one "how is that call NOT reversed" late Fitz TD followed by a completely blown Miller pass to a wide open Posey away from STILL losing.  

Ty Butterfield

August 25th, 2014 at 3:35 PM ^

I think this was dumb when RR did it and it is still dumb now. Seems like Hoke is becoming increasingly desperate.

Brick in The Wave

August 25th, 2014 at 5:32 PM ^

I don't understand why this looks like desperation to people, teams are a lot like people in the sense that every one is different.  This could be Hoke's way of incorporating a new style of leadership.  Doing something just because it has always been done that way is bad business. 

Successful coaches are constantly trying new things, some pay off others flop.  But it is the willingness to try these things that often seperate teams from each other.

Blue Balls Afire

August 25th, 2014 at 4:10 PM ^

I have no problem with this and I had no problem with it when RR did it.  (Like everyone else, I was more concerned with RR's lack of attention to his defense.)  Hoke is addressing a lack of effective leadership last year by trying something different this year.  Fine by me.  I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and see what happens.

MGJS SuperKick Party

August 25th, 2014 at 5:50 PM ^

So, I think this is kinda silly... I feel like Brady is grasping at something, anything, that could change the tide of his coaching tenure here. Winning but declining records, losing records against rivals, getting a hot candidate for head coaching jobs in the future.

I mean, if it inspires the kids than great. I want to win games, and get rid of distractions, and this is a distraction.

UMxWolverines

August 25th, 2014 at 10:44 PM ^

Why would this be your last post for a while? This week is nothing but listening to professors ramble about the syllabus. Boring as hell but at least you don't have to do any work yet. 

UMxWolverines

August 26th, 2014 at 2:51 AM ^

Also the more I think about this the more it worries me. We heard there was team fighting last year. A bunch of people on here said it sure seems like a lack of leadership and a bunch of people said you're full of it. I sure hope this isn't a sign of more of that to come. 

MGoblu8

August 26th, 2014 at 8:00 AM ^

I hate it. I hated it when I read this, but I hate it more after listening to Sam & Ira talking about it this morning. Sam and Ira are great, but I hate this.