May 24th, 2011 at 11:43 AM ^

What exactly does retarded look like?

Its is not that players set a goal before each play to get a sticker, the sticker is recognition for accomplishing a set goal or making a great play. Goals could be for total yards allowed,rushing yards allowed, total points allowed, getting of the field on third down, third down efficiency, red zone efficiency, big hits, pancakes, etc. When I played, it was my goal to pancake the man across from me on every single play, a sticker would not have motivated me any more to do that, but getting that concrete recognition from my staff and peers would have been really neat too. Pro's have incentive laden contracts which acts in a similar way. Should contracts not have incentives in the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, or in business?


May 24th, 2011 at 1:37 AM ^

If we do i'd like them to be rectangular-ish and long/slim so they can arrange them somehow so it doesn't take a few to start cluttering the helmet


May 24th, 2011 at 2:45 AM ^

Then, I hope Hoke limits the stickers to a few!  I did not like the 80s and even up through Mo where helmets were filled with stickers and you could not see the wings!


May 24th, 2011 at 2:14 PM ^

you agree with EVERYTHING Bo ever did


You can't like most everything Bo did and disagree with a few things based on your own thoughts and analysis? It is not ironic, since Bo wanted his coaches to fight with him for what they thought was right, and respected this. Lloyd took them off, and he was a Bo disciple. Crisler and Yost never used them either. It is ok to not like them and makes you no worse or better of a fan of Bo. 


May 24th, 2011 at 8:02 AM ^

These guys are not Buckeyes with the equivalent of a nursery school education, needing to be pointed to the bathroom and getting a star when they spell "tattoo," or "auto." Leave well enough alone, Brady, I beg.


May 24th, 2011 at 8:19 AM ^

Never understood why singling out individual players on a team sport was such a good idea.  Say one of our running backs gets a touchdown, is he the only one to get a sticker?  How about the linemen that created the hole, or the fullback that was the lead blocker?  The same could be said about a touchdown pass, does the QB and the WR each get one?  What about the linemen in pass protection, or the other WR that may have opened up a lane with his route?

The Team's success in an effort by all the student athletes on the Team!  Saying these players are better or more successful marginalizes the other players not in the so-called "skill positions". 

Maybe I'm just a bitter ex-lineman though...

PS: Don't clutter up the helmets!  Best looking helmets in college football, no need to ruin them.


May 24th, 2011 at 9:21 AM ^

I would think that Hoke and the rest of the staff have enough experience with the X's and O's to be able to recognize good plays all over the field and hand out stickers to anybody that deserves one. I doubt that you would see the typical media bias toward the skill positions.

Also, I don't think that rewarding individual effort is counter-productive to the team atmosphere. Anytime a player works hard, he's likely still doing it for the team. Think about what Hoke has said about how he wants the practices to look (and I think Aaron Wellman, the S&C coach has said similar things): competition all the time. Every drill, every snap, every rep is going to be done competitively. That doesn't mean that the teammates competing against each other aren't teammates. The competition is good for the team. Individual effort is what makes a team.


May 24th, 2011 at 10:08 AM ^

So is every post-season award handed out by the UM football program at the team banquet. Those are individual awards that emphasize individual accomplishments. Just like the Heisman Trophy. That's contradictory to the team philosophy as well.




May 24th, 2011 at 10:19 AM ^

and the helmet stickers. I feel that wearing the stickers is like actually carrying your award around with you. There's a time for individual recognition, but I don't think it should be worn on your sleeve, or your helmet. The Heisman comes from outside, so not much can be done about that. Besides the philosophy behind them, I also just think they detract from an already perfect design.


May 24th, 2011 at 10:41 AM ^

I agree.  The helmet stickers were a mistake.

As pointed out, Bo started the stickers at Miami.  Perhaps by the time he delivered the famous "team" comment, he'd realized by then that the stickers had run their course. 

Anyway, a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.


May 24th, 2011 at 11:10 AM ^

Anyway, a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

Is this a quote in your sig line or did you really just come up with that? I applaud your linguistic effort if you just wrote that. Hobgoblin? Well done.


May 24th, 2011 at 11:50 AM ^

It's stating that trying to stay consistent instead of constantly morphing and changing one's views is shallow and base. A great mind forms an opinion and has no problem changing it publicly because it is willing to grow, even if it should be seen as hypocritical or inconsistent by the masses.
I personally do not believe Bo had this profound change of heart. But there need be no great debate over helmet stickers.
(Edit-Bo's "The Team" speech was given in 1983 and helmet stickers were adiosed in 1995, I believe, by Carr)


May 24th, 2011 at 6:03 PM ^

Perhaps by the time he delivered the famous "team" comment, he'd realized by then that the stickers had run their course.

Unlikely, given that he delivered the speech in 1983 and kept the helmet stickers to the end of his career.

oriental andrew

May 24th, 2011 at 9:27 AM ^

I think the stickers should be little blue dots that go up the yellow stripes from the back, until all the yellow stripes and wings are covered in blue dots.  /s

not a fan of helmet stickers.


May 24th, 2011 at 9:38 AM ^

Not a fan of helmet stickers on the winged helmet... just my $0.02.  For me it's not really a matter of tradition  or whether or not having individual accomplishments acknowledged is a good idea;  I just think it looks ugly...