Danwillhor

April 15th, 2013 at 6:36 AM ^

Carr had great classes (especially after 97) and, in fact, had possibly the best recruiting class in UM history in the Henson/Fargas/Terrell/etc class that even a budding recruiting business universally named the top class in America. I remember being a mid-teenager and reading Parade Magazine from a Sunday Toledo Blade. They did (still do?) a yearly recruiting round-up at signing day and listed the "Parade All Americans & Overall National POY". The amount of kids going to Michigan that year was astounding. Every other kid was going to Michigan and, IIRC, either Henson or Fargas was the POY. The issue with Carr was that later in his career he became lazy in a few positions, OL being the worst. For every Long or Schilling he'd offer and land 3 absolute no name kids with either a NR-2* ranking who never saw the field here but would get the "recruiting service bump" just because they assumed if Michigan wanted him he has to be at least a 3-4*. High ranked OL turned out to have health issues we only found out about after NSD, career ending shoulder issues we ignored BEFORE offering (KZ), etc. That was the downfall as he consistently brought in enoug talent that could and a few times SHOULD have won a NC if not for atrocious OC/DC combos. He basically failed to adapt and open up a bit when CFB was clearly going that way. We had the talent to do it (see Carr's last game) but "off tackle left" to start each game was a given. Even Pete Carroll, in genuine warning to us or arrogant pride, openly spoke of how absolutely predictable we were to the media. Players of many schools, win or loss, would say how they knew what was coming before the ball was snapped. Yet, we still had the talent to be a decent team (and NC level great in 06, IMHO). So, whether one staff is better at recruiting than another is too early to say, IMO. All I know is that our HC, DC & OC are not the type to coach by the motto of "here is what we're doing, try to stop it" as they all know those days are over aside from playing absolute scrub teams and having overwhelming talent. Bo had that mentality and rightfully so at the time, it carried on all the way to Carr and still largely worked until the spread era hit. Yet, he didn't adapt and what happened happened. This current staff, when they have their players, should have great talent and NOT be as predictable as those late Carr/DeBord teams. That matters more than recruiting as long as the kids you get are good players, IMO. *Sorry I cannot make paragraphs as the Android app is a billion times better now but it still doesn't allow that.*

maize-blue

April 14th, 2013 at 4:37 PM ^

Dude!! I think something special is happening in Ann Arbor. Lots of playmakers. We have like 64 offensive lineman, a swarming defense........After watching the spring game it looks like the guys are getting bigger. Taco is one of the biggest freshmen I think I have seen. And I think one of the commentators said we may be the youngest team in the conference. I think the team and the recruiting will continue to trend up!

pbmd

April 14th, 2013 at 4:56 PM ^

a real need and important to land a nationally coveted, local player. 

what about his desire to take official visits? should juniors be taking officials in the spring before their senior season?

A Lot of Milk

April 14th, 2013 at 6:44 PM ^

Some good gems in that thread. My favorite: "As soon as Alphonso takes a pay cut and goes to the NBA, there was money in the cookie jar for Drake. Not just a coincidence that both events happened on the same day." Really? We paid a 3-star point guard from Columbus whose best offer was from Cincinnati to come play for us? RCMB is amazing sometimes.

Sione's Flow

April 14th, 2013 at 7:21 PM ^

I like how they kind of bounce all over the place. First they bad mouth Drake, then it's Hoke, then the Big House, then Denard, then they accuse the kids of coming here for easy playing time, then it's how UM isn't relevant, then Hoke isn't a stickler for discipline. It's any excuse other than Drake just liked UM better.

smitty1983

April 14th, 2013 at 6:34 PM ^

"Hoke is a heart attack waiting to happen.
UM has the jolly fat man advantage when it comes to recruiting. Hard to beat UM for recruits when they have Santa making visits."

Did dantonio just have a heart attack two years ago?

Sione's Flow

April 14th, 2013 at 11:54 PM ^

 

"Hoke recruits well but he also recruits a bunch of overrated players"

"This guy is supposed to be their savior and they call him the next peterson. If you watch the video, I don't see anything special about him"

 

Apparently all of the recruiting analysts nationwide are wrong and this one Sparty knows true talent when he sees it.  I'm going to EL someday, because I want some of what they're smoking up there.

Doc Brown

April 15th, 2013 at 10:14 AM ^

I have a new favorite schadenfreude post from RCMB

 

It's because they act arrogant. People that went to UM think they are better than others not because of anything they have done in life, but for the sole reason of where they went to school. Because it sees itself as an exclusive community, UM is a breeding ground for arrogance and entitlement. Somehow the non-affiliated fans think they can get a piece of that experience by rooting for the school; that they too are part of an exclusive community. Non-affiliated fans see UM as the superior school and root for UM in an attempt to boost their own self-perception at the expense of others. The best part is that UM is such an exclusive community they have the same contempt for the non-affiliated fans that they have for everybody else. People that root for UM but did not go there and otherwise have no connection are absolute fools. MSU is the state's land grant school. Part of MSU's mission is to serve the state and its people. MSU is the true university of Michigan, and CMU and WMU are more universities of Michigan than the University of Michigan. The non-affiliated fans are too dumb to see this, or just think rooting for UM makes them part of something special.

It is hilarious this tool actually believes MSU is "the true Michigan university." The delusion and inferiority is high in this post.

MGO Florida

April 18th, 2013 at 9:16 PM ^

Congratulations to the kid and I hope that he does very well here.  It fills a need for us as a playmaker plus he seems like a great character guy, really important commit for Michigan.  He will look great in Maize and Blue.  

On another note entirely, this is my first post so hi everyone.