ken725

October 22nd, 2015 at 12:50 PM ^

It is the "quiet period" in the recruiting calendar right now.

 

During a quiet period, a college coach may only have face-to-face contact with college-bound student-athletes or their parents on the college’s campus. A coach may not watch student-athletes compete (unless a competition occurs on the college’s campus) or visit their high schools. Coaches may write or telephone college-bound student-athletes or their parents during this time.
Within the quiet period, a school can have 42 days of "evaluation period" where coaches are allowed to visit schools.

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ken725

October 22nd, 2015 at 12:53 PM ^

You probably replied after I added that with in the quiet period (Aug 1 - Nov28) a school can choose a 42 day evaluation period, where coaches are allowed to go to games and visit HS, but they can't have face to face with a recruit or parent off campus.

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Dubs

October 22nd, 2015 at 2:17 PM ^

"Rashan?!  Isaac? Hey! Funny seeing you here!  I was just on my way to the food store to get some food and I saw these lights and decided to head over and see what the big whoop was!  What a small world!  Well, see you later!  I have to return to my home with my food from the food store that will surely be getting warm in my car that is definately not a rental and is totally mine."

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WolvinLA2

October 22nd, 2015 at 12:45 PM ^

I know you're joking, but the only thing Harbaugh hasn't yet proven he can do better than Hoke is recruit. I'm not saying he won't prove it, but looking at it completely objectively, we can't yet say Harbaugh is the better recruiter. Point being, asking if Hoke would do anything differently, with regards to recruiting only, isn't necessarily a bad idea.

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alum96

October 22nd, 2015 at 2:12 PM ^

Can't judge last year - he was a guy who was trending down and then once ND hit we looked like a MAC team and then Shane-gate and Brandon on fire and all that.  It was a disaster.  His earlier classes were high on paper but he only recruited well on 1 side of the ball.  Defense.  We see that now - his players combined with real coaches leads to a near elite unit.  On offense I disagree with the consensus he was a great recruiter.  He did fine by rankings but the aside from Funchess who was a TE he did not find one top 10 Big 10 WR, not one top 10 Big 10 running back, Glasgow was not a scholarship player and he got Cole.  Guys like Kalis and Magnuson if you put them in a Minnesota uniform would just be "another guy". QBs? LOL.

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EGD

October 22nd, 2015 at 10:30 PM ^

I think Hoke's offensive recruiting was actually pretty good except for the QB position. That's really the only position on the offense where Hoke didn't leave at least two or three plausible options. But man do I wish he'd neglected slot receivers or something instead.

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alum96

October 22nd, 2015 at 2:28 PM ^

Hoke the "great" recruiter:

 

 

OL

  • Chris Bryant (INJ - so inconclusive but was this guy headed for 2nd team Big 10?)
  • Tony Posada (MIA)
  • Blake Bars
  • Ben Braden
  • Kyle Kalis
  • Erik Magnuson
  • Kyle Bosch
  • David Dawson
  • Chris Fox (INJ)
  • Patrick Kugler
  • Dan Samuelson
  • Scott Sypniewski
  • LTT (Gone)
  • JBB
  • Mason Cole

RB/FB/HB

  • Thomas Rawls (well he had NFL talent apparently)
  • Sione Houma
  • Drake Johnson
  • Dennis Norfleet
  • Derrick Green
  • Deveon Smith
  • Wyatt Shallman

TE

  • Chris Barnett
  • Jake Butt
  • Khalid Hill
  • Devin Funchess
  • AJ Williams
  • Ian Bunting

WR

  • Jehu Chesson
  • Amara Darboh
  • Jaron Dukes
  • Da'Mario Jones
  • Csonte York (GONE)
  • Freddy Canteen
  • Drake Harris
  • Mo Ways

QB

  • Russ Bellomy
  • Shane Morris
  • Wilton Speight

 

*Justice Hayes was a 2011 recruit but recruited by RR.

That's 4 yrs of Hoke's recruiting before the house caved in last year.  I'll give him a pass for 2011 where he had a few months only.  But where are the difference makers outside of a few TEs?  Who scares anyone from an opposing staff?  What OL player does the opposing team scheme against like a Conklin?  Cole is the only guy on the OL with any trajectory aside from Glasgow.  Glasgow was having trouble with McDowell (pending UFR).  Calhoun destroyed Magnuson etc.  What WR do you have to devote time worying about? RB? QB? Who is All Big 10 2nd team?

 This new staff was able to make AJ Williams a competent player so if there was extreme talent to be had that had not been developed, it would be unearthed by now.  It was decent recruiting on paper but an elite recruiter can do more than recruit half the side of the football field.  Hoke could recruit defense - he couldnt recruit offense - he was not an elite recruiter.

In 4 years: Funchess, Cole (maybe), Butt as elite or near elite players on offense.

 

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EGD

October 22nd, 2015 at 10:43 PM ^

Right now, I would agree that Butt is the only elite offensive player on the roster. But there are plenty of guys who have the potential to develop into elite players. I could see a couple of the linemen getting really good after another year or two of Drevno's coaching. The young receivers have talent. Bunting looks like he's going to be a hell of a player. Most of these guys were 4- and 5-star recruits that lots of people wanted. If Harbaugh doesn't get much out of them either, then I'll agree they were overrated as recruits. But a lot of them are still really young.

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Champeen

October 22nd, 2015 at 3:43 PM ^

You are kind of right.  Hoke recruited very well. Harbaugh 'appears' to be on his way to recruiting very well - probably top 3 in all of football.

What we DO know is that Harbaugh puts in a hell of a lot more work recruiting than Hoke did.  Harbaughs ambition is amazing.  His energy is off the charts.  He works harder than any coach we have had to be blunt.

If Harbaugh keeps putting in this work, there is little doubt in my mind Michigan will multiple recruiting championships AND national championships.  Wish i had half this guys ambition and energy.

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