Harbaugh's Mantra - Fair, Healthy, Honest Competition

Submitted by Hard-Baughlls on November 30th, 2016 at 1:03 PM

I have heard Harbaugh say this a bunch: How much he loves "Fair, honest, healthy competition" regarding competition within the team for playing time, and game day battles with other teams.  While it may seem like a corny /trite quote reeking of coach speak, he truly does seem to love the day to day and week to week battles.

While he is known for his tirades on the sideline, I have found Jim to be very fair and complimentary of other teams when they win that competition, as much as it must kill him inside. After the Iowa loss this year, he showed a great deal of respect for their effort and stadium atmosphere.

While we all wanted to win on Saturday, probably nobody moreso than Jim, I believe a certain aspect of his moral fiber / his psychological foundation was offended by what transpired on the field, more than it just being sour grapes about a loss.  Jim seems to really value the integrity of the game of football, and I think he was more than just upset about bad calls going against his team, I truly believe his football being was offended by the absurdity on Saturday.

-Neg away / hawt take / officiating thread delete, etc.


Maison Bleue

November 30th, 2016 at 1:55 PM ^

Not so sure about this, a poster on the scout (TMI) message board that has ties to the athletic department, said earlier this week that after reviewing the tape of the game extensively (to clip and send to the B1G offices) the staff realized that it was much worse than they had originally thought.


November 30th, 2016 at 1:08 PM ^

I completly agree. And furthermore, he not only brings that atmosphere to the team, but you can see it rubbing off on the players, which is a huge step in putting togeter a great team.


November 30th, 2016 at 1:10 PM ^

I am glad Harbaugh exposed the terrible officiating.  The officiating in that game became a national sports topic this week and rightfully so.


November 30th, 2016 at 1:11 PM ^

For the record you saw none of the reaction after the Iowa game you saw after OSU.  We lost that game, fair and square, and as upset as Harbaugh must've been - he never said a word about the officiating.

Like Pope Landro said - nobody likes feeling their playing in a rigged game.  Unless you're Ohio State that is and the rig is on your side.  Then it's perfectly ok.


November 30th, 2016 at 5:24 PM ^

And that game wasn't exactly well-officiated either -  Iowa definitely benefitted from some home-cookin'. But I also don't recall feeling overwhelmingly like they screwed us (that facemask call was bad, but understandable).  OSU was more  "wow, it's so bad that something seems fishy here". 


November 30th, 2016 at 1:49 PM ^

There as a play in the NFL this weekend (Patriots game 2-pt conversion) just like the Evans play.  They ruled it a TD live but reversed it on replay.


I don't fully understand it, but apparenly if a ballcarrier steps into the endzone, it is a TD regardless of whether the ball breaks the plane.  However if the player never establishes himself in the endzone, the ball must break the plane.  In the pats game, the player steped OVER the corner of the end zone, inside of the pylon, but stepped on the OOB line, therefore never establishing possession IN the end zone, and the ball never broke the plane. 


The whole ruling is weird, but I kind of understand it.   Kind of.  I think the Evans play was something similar.  What I'm not sure of is, if you kick the pylon, is it a TD? 


November 30th, 2016 at 2:23 PM ^

But did you see the play where the Pats ran a screen on 3rd down for almost 10 yards.  The officials signaled 1st down and spotted the ball on the yard line.  The Jets challenged.  On review, it showed the RB hit just inches short of the line to make.  The refs overruled the call on the field and marked the ball... wait for it... a full yard back.  That was after looking at CLEAR VIDEO.  He was short, but not a yard short.  Even the professional, full-time referees have brain farts.

Gulo Gulo Luscus

November 30th, 2016 at 3:30 PM ^

that i understand. but the ball crossed the plane for evans way before his foot landed out of bounds. if we imagine the goal line is instead the 50 in the screenshot below, does the ball get spotted shy of the 50 (wherever it was when it crossed the sideline)? i think so, but what if the players body has not crossed the sideline yet? and doesn't the "plane of the goal line extends infinitely" concept make this unique? football rules are complicated.

harbaugh asked whether that's a TD if his foot had hit the pylon. i think the answer is "yes" since that is equivalent to his toe touching the field in the end zone. chris should have just stuck the ball out a bit but seems like this should be ruled a TD.

Gulo Gulo Luscus

November 30th, 2016 at 2:23 PM ^

right call. bad rule.

another bad rule that needs to be addressed is that you can end the game with an intentional offensive penalty. in a just rulebook, the refs giving CMU a hail mary shot would have been the right call. same can be said for the recent illinois high school controversy where the refs also misapplied the same untimed down rule. and now jim's brother is taunting the football gods with this one!


December 1st, 2016 at 9:47 AM ^

I looked up the play last night and I think I figured out why Jim didn't try it. It didn't work in the Super Bowl. The punter took the safety with 4 seconds on the clock, and then had to punt the ball back to the 49ers via the safety punt. If the Ravens would have executed the intentional safety better, I bet we see Michigan run that play to end last year's MSU game. So don't be pissed at Jim, be pissed that the Ravens fucked it up the first time.

ole luther

November 30th, 2016 at 1:17 PM ^

implying that Hargaugh is a fan.

He's a former player and now the coach.

I do not hesitate to remind anyone (M fans included) that I am a season ticket holder.........not just a fan. (nothing wrong with being a fan). Harbaugh is on another level altogether.

Trader Jack

November 30th, 2016 at 1:46 PM ^

It's cool that you have season tickets, but that doesn't make your enthusiasm and dedication to the program any more impressive than someone who doesn't have season tickets and watches every game on TV instead. Having season tickets, where you sit in the stands to watch the game, makes you, by definition...........just a fan.


November 30th, 2016 at 1:50 PM ^

Well, aren't you just special...

Glad you're not just a fan, like the rest of us that live 700 miles away (or further) from the Big House.  I mean, how would Michigan Stadium ever fill up if M only had 'fans' (air quotes)?  Thank god for you, sir!!


November 30th, 2016 at 3:30 PM ^

As a pompous season ticket holder you are required to have a user name that tells us what section you are in so we can tell how long you've been a season ticket holder. If it's a lousy section, and you are new, I'm sorry but you are just a wanna be season ticket holder. You have a 10 year waiting period to be accepted as a 'real' season ticket holder. The only exception to that is if your old user name was your section and you were banned for being pompous. In that case you are forgiven for having a new user name. But you are not forgiven for being pompous.