Happy Friday, the Week is Over Thread

Submitted by nmumike on November 15th, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Thankful that this week is almost over, definitely looking forward to the weekend.

Where are you all at Mgo-Community in your fanhood, are you apathetic, resigned to the fact that we will always be a mediocre football program, excited for the future, still very hopeful for this season, or just looking forward to the hockey and basketball seasons to take your mind off of football.

I am still excited about the future, but very worried about our player development as a whole.

Last question, would you rather be able to fly or be invisible and why?

Have a great weekend everyone, and GO BLUE!



November 15th, 2013 at 11:08 AM ^

about Michigan football.

As far as flying vs. invisibility, the answer for me is flying. But only if it's, like, really fast flying. Invisibility is awesome if you want to be deceptive, or could possibly gain a tangible advantage by hiding information (like your existence/presence). But if I could fly really fast, I'd save tons of money on transportation and do so legally. I would wear my briefs outside my pants, however.

Monocle Smile

November 15th, 2013 at 11:11 AM ^

Even in 2008, I always found a way to be optimistic the morning of game day regardless of whatever crushing occurred the weekend before.

I'm also six months removed from relocation to a backwater town where I knew exactly no one within a 300-mile radius, and I think I've finally reached the turning point in the ensuing depression. I'm venturing into acceptance territory and life is starting to improve.


November 15th, 2013 at 11:15 AM ^

Numb.... Just numb man.

The only reason I'm even going to watch the NW game this weekend is because I have a small sliver of hope that something will change and I won't have to witness this team beat their collective heads against a brick wall for 3 hours.

However, I'm not expecting much.


Go Blue..... (simply because I have no idea of what else to do)


November 15th, 2013 at 11:32 AM ^

I know man. Except I don't even feel like watching it. I haven't felt that way since '09 OSU game, and unless something changes I doubt I'll feel any different for the rest of the season. After this weekend, I've given up all hope for this season, and probably next if there isn't any change made to the offensive staff after this season. "This is Michigan" has come to represent something I despise, namely, bashing your head over and over against the wall without refusing to adapt, take advantage, and innovate. That is certainly not Michigan to me.


November 15th, 2013 at 11:21 AM ^

...a friend last night told me that Rivals is running a story that Jabrill may decommit and go to Alabama.  I just checked the website and see the story linked but I am not a premium subscriber so have not read it past the headline.  Anyone know anything more about this potentially unspeakable situation?

Brick in The Wave

November 15th, 2013 at 11:21 AM ^

On the 12 hour drive back to Nebraska on Sunday my buddy (who is a Nebraska fan) asked me what it would take to salvage the season at this point.

After thinking about it I said I think we have to go at 1-1 against Iowa/NW and then beat Ohio.

Then I got gut punched by a Hand (see what I did there).

But I woke up this morning still feeling that a 1-1 against Iowa/NW and then a win against Ohio and things are looking up.

Not optomistic, doubt is happens but one can hope.



November 15th, 2013 at 11:22 AM ^

Trying to remove the emotion and not let it put me into a depression in other parts of my life.  This week I have been able to compartmentalize pretty well.  Looking forward to the weekend.  Looking forward to the fact that my weekend is not centered around Michigan football.  Looking forward to a calm weekend at home to get things done.  Looking forward to watching the game, having a few beers, and yelling at the TV with unmatch... matched passion from friends and loved ones.  Looking forward to having a sit down dinner post game where I am frustrated but moving on or slightly happy we won and go to be early. 


November 15th, 2013 at 11:25 AM ^

That is what I am currently excited for this Friday.  Undefeated, taking on Detroit Catholic Central in Bedford.  7:00 kickoff.  Team still healing from Colton Durbin and Kelsey Koepfler dying this school year.  Now, another student at Bedford H.S. has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, one of the worst.



Does anyone know of any recruits on Detroit Catholic Central that I should have my eye on?


November 15th, 2013 at 11:34 AM ^

This is a good diversion for me as I muddle through a break in this all day training session.

I still maintain some manner of hope that - on all cyclinders - we can finish this season out at least 8-4 and go to a decent bowl. For the long term, I am definitely hopeful that we can get to where we want to be. I don't think I could ever give up on Michigan football in good conscience, and even when others say they have, I tend not to believe them. 

Worried about player development? Absolutely. That concern is undeniable. Do I trust this staff to do something, even if it means changing up the team a bit? I still believe that, if it came to that, they would make strategic changes. In that respect, it is a business. 

I also appreciate this thread.


November 15th, 2013 at 11:34 AM ^

I missed the second half of football game voluntarily to go watch the wings last Saturday and followed the game on my phone. After seeing the final score I said mother fucker a little too loud and the guy sitting next to me says, "I bet ya Borges laid another egg." It's getting very hard to follow the game with any emotion for me because I have lost faith in the OC. Also, invisable. And yes, I would use my power for evil.


November 15th, 2013 at 11:38 AM ^

I'm happy it's Friday.

Looking forward MBB vs. Iowa State on tv.

In my fanhood, I was optimistic about fb program. Not looking forward to sacrificing offensive production tomorrow and the remainder of the season in the name of a 2015 "manball" offense.

Walter E. Kurtz

November 15th, 2013 at 11:42 AM ^

I am looking forward to going to a birthing class with my wife tomorrow.  Then I will wander through the quaint streets of Annapolis.  It's very hard for me to get excited for the game because I'm afraid of the emotional let down if we lose.  Last week, given the state of Nebraska's team with its injuries, I was beyond upset with the game's outcome.  Nevertheless, I'm hoping for a victory and will ride or die with the Wolverines.

Being a relatively new poster, I also appreciate the thread.

As far as invisibility or flying goes see my post above.


November 15th, 2013 at 11:48 AM ^

I believe there may be hope if we get some new offensive coaches. I am not sure the current offensive coaches can develop our talent on that side of the ball. Also I am not inherently opposed to Manball but for the foreseeable future we should run a modified version where short passes set up everything else until such time as our talent has physically matured to the point where they can actually block somebody. Literally anybody. That was a little too negative but that is kind of where I am right now.

I will be at the game tomorrow supporting our team and wishing our coaches would adapt like they seemed to do in 2011. I am also planning to be at Moe's tonight so I am looking forward to that.

Flying would be my choice.

Walter E. Kurtz

November 15th, 2013 at 12:05 PM ^

Is a good one.  It seemed the staff was on the right track.

Successful commanders and military institutions have sometimes had to junk their pre-war innovations and develop entirely new competencies that they had not anticipated.  

Now in 2013 it seems like the staff is on the wrong track.

I guess it has me asking, "What happened?"




November 15th, 2013 at 11:58 AM ^

I guess I am confused about this season.  After the Notre Dame game I thought we made a strong case as top Big Ten title contender and then I woke up this past Sunday morning wondering what the hell happened to this season.

Can we go back to September 7th please?  Do over?

That said, I will watch the game and the apathy is probably a good thing.  I fully expect Northwestern to win so if we do at least there's a pleasant surprise, if not, well, it's not like anything is lost.


November 15th, 2013 at 11:50 AM ^

I feel like one of these days I'm going to watch Michigan play and am going to see improvement. Even if they lose now that would still give me hope for the future. If not, more doom, gloom, and appreciation of everything.

Hemlock Philosopher

November 15th, 2013 at 12:12 PM ^

My six year old son wakes up every Saturday and puts on his Michigan shirt and wakes me up with a "Go Blue!".  Each week we watch the game together and I explain the rules to him with an ever increasing complexity. (I wonder how one really appreciates how complex the game is until they explain it to a six year old.)

Michigan inevitiably runs into a 9-man box and gets stuffed; the boy gets breifly excited and then realizes it's not a good play. When the opponent gets a first down on 4th and 2, he say's it's a bad play and they should give Michigan the ball back... His level of homerism is strong. When it's all said and done, he is happy to have spent three hours with dad and his dad is happy to have spent three hours with his son. (And also thankful that he did not teach him any offensive language. At least this time.)

I'll be watching this weekend to root for Michigan and spend time with the little Wolverine. 


November 15th, 2013 at 12:30 PM ^

I have reached the point where I am beyond caring, and have lost faith in our offensive coaches.  I got through the RichRod years just fine and thought last year was a fluke. I have come to realize that the program is now average at best and is anything but elite, with nothing in the short term to suggest it is going to change.

For the first time in a decade, I think I won't be going to games next year, and I have missed but two home games out of about the last 70 or so.


November 15th, 2013 at 1:05 PM ^

I have no expectations for how this season will finish. From my perspective we are as likely as not to win the next two. While we'll be horrific underdogs against Ohio, rivalry games exist in their own dimension, so I'll enter that with no expectations as well. 

I find it amusing that after weeks of screaming about how Funk can't develop anyone, Schofield's development this year is praised and credited with improving his his draft stock. Other than a very few occasional comments, only crickets are heard here about this demonstration of player development. In any event with or without Oline coaching changes I expect that next year's line will improve over this one, and have confidence that Hoke will do what is required with regard to his staff.

I am unconcerned about decommits from our 2014 class, or rumors of transfers for playing time from our current players. If we've learned nothing else from this season, it is that the team and the coaches must be able to deal with adversity. While I fully understand the importance of talent, the team is better off it folks who don't want to be here are where they want to be. Those who stay... 

I remain confident that Hoke is the man to fix the team's short term issues, and build a program that, in time, will compete head to head in "The Game", win Big Ten titles, and compete for a slot in the playoffs on a regular basis. I'm not worried about the team that will be fielded in 2015 or 2016, while the foundations of those teams are playing now, there are to many real world variables to look that far into the future. I do expect 2014 to be another tough year, but expect the team to improve, even if the record does not. 

It may sound like I am a pollyanna, but the real reason is longevity. I've been watching/following Michigan football since the early sixities. This is either my 50th or 51st year as an active fan. As heart breakingly hard as it is to watch this season, the team actually has performed worse than this in my lifetime, and those seasons were tough to watch too. 

The university is deeply resilient, but it tends NOT to be proactive about various things. The list includes its various sports programs. Once the university determines it has a problem, it moves to fix it and remains focused on getting it fixed until success is achieved. I am certain that if my confidence in this staff proves misplaced, Michigan will find a coach who will accomplish all those goals. 

It's not that I'm happily content to wait, I hate this at least as much as any of you. It's simply that my experience had taught me that most improvements take time, and that the path to success is rarely straight or even. 


November 15th, 2013 at 1:19 PM ^

Did you recently listen to the This American Life about flying vs. invisibility?  Or is that argumentative writing prof at U-M still making his students listen to that episode?  (Can't remember his name, I just remember he was featured once on TAL or some other NPR show on some sad panda piece about how he sent audio tapes to his dad in the Navy and his dad ignored them).

As for me, Happy Friday has become Sad Friday, because it means its just one more day until our [email protected]# of a football team shows up on the field and decides to collectively embarass the largest alumni base in the country.

Go Blue in MN

November 15th, 2013 at 2:19 PM ^

and hate to see that kind of sentiment expressed on this board (not you, OP).  A true Michigan Man (or Michigan Woman) will support the team 100 percent even if they're 0-9 on the season.  My best realistic expectaction for the remainder of 2013 is to see improvement from the OL, which, if it occurs, should be enough to defeat Northwestern and Iowa, and to remain respectable against Ohio (I don't think winning that game is realistic).  In that scenario, we finish 8-4, show that we can beat at least medicore teams on the road, and stop the negative vibes that threaten to derail our recruting success.  Go Blue! 


November 15th, 2013 at 2:34 PM ^

I just feel numb that our offense is playing lousier than the '08 team. This is the most disappointing part of the entire season. I never experienced a season where our total offensive run yardage have been negative for two consecutive games.

All we can hope for is that the offense will improve.


November 15th, 2013 at 2:28 PM ^

But I'm not excited about the season any more. I can't believe I'm more interested in the Lions, that rarely ever happens, especially over Michigan football.

I'm still wondering if it would be better to lose the remaining games and get a bowl opponent we could possibly beat. I fear if we win a game or two we will be playing a number 4 SEC team that will blow us out!

My grade is incomplete on Hoke until after the 2015 season but he and his offensive staff are failing on the progress reports. I guess, I can't really tell if our future will be bright or blah! I have this feeling Hoke offensive coaches may not  be very good at developing players. If this turn out to be the case our ceiling will be an 8-4 team and finishing in the middle of the pack in the B1G east division.