Great film breakdown from SEC Country
September 3rd, 2017 at 3:41 PM ^
Nice. Film of florida having a breakdown.
September 3rd, 2017 at 3:51 PM ^
I just read this article and was debating on posting it.
+1 on a good read
The author concludes that the problem is one of trust and he reprimands the coaching staff from going away from plays that had potential whereas Michigan did not.
Quote on Michigan's Trust:
This play showed me a lot about Michigan. First, Harbaugh put Perry back on the field in spite of his stupid unsportsmanlike conduct penalty earlier in the game. Harbaugh trusted Speight to throw the exact same type of pass that had been returned for a touchdown earlier in the game. And Speight trusted his ability to throw the pass.
September 3rd, 2017 at 3:52 PM ^
Though I will agree to disagree that we didn't outclass Florida on a talent level (at least on the defensive side of the ball)
September 3rd, 2017 at 3:58 PM ^
Yea i think the good guys looked more talented on both sides of the ball..our receivers got open (our qb missed alot of em unfortunately) the rbs made people miss and we had a TE blow past a corner and a safety for a big completion. I wont even mention the other side of the ball
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:30 PM ^
I read that slightly differently. I thought the author admitted that we outclassed Florida talent-wise, just not by that much. Quoted below.
"Michigan is a physically talented team. But it’s not that much stronger, faster or quicker than the Gators."
September 3rd, 2017 at 6:41 PM ^
This is true though Florida has a pretty talented team, just poorly coached.
September 4th, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^
There's probably a lot of truth to that. Remember what Harbaugh did with Hoke's teams. Under Hoke the same guys looked like they were uninspired. Put them under Harbaugh and Coach Brown and its a whole new world.
Its all about preperation.
September 4th, 2017 at 10:43 AM ^
Also getting the players to believe in the team.
The team, The team, The team...
September 4th, 2017 at 11:19 AM ^
But . . . but . . . but . . . I thought it was Florida that had the talent edge. And certainly the speed edge.
At least that was what the media was telling me all week long.
#FAKESPEED.
September 3rd, 2017 at 3:56 PM ^
instead of bitching about the officials or bad luck the writer put some thought into what really happened, plus gave credit where credit was due.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:23 PM ^
I thought the credit was fraud
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:06 PM ^
Reading about Florida's offensive gameplay really reminded me of the Hoke years. The predictability, the simple minded mentality, the seeming lack of self scouting or having any idea of how your opponent might prepare for you. It's so refreshing to not have that anymore.
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:12 PM ^
even Hoke managed 30 rushing yards in 30 for 30.
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:33 PM ^
constant in those comparisons ...
[not to let Borges off the hook]
September 3rd, 2017 at 6:44 PM ^
An instant 33% reduction in points scored per game. Gardner went from a QB rating of 146 to 118, and his TD/INT ratio flipped from 1.9 to 0.7. Remember how Nussmeier was finally going to be the QB coach Michigan desperately deserved, how Gardner would finally have a coordinator that fully understood how to best utilize his skills?
Know what I saw yesterday? I saw the 2014 Michigan offense dressed in blue. Brady Hoke had his problems at Michigan, but it wasn't he that broke Devin Gardner.
September 3rd, 2017 at 8:40 PM ^
To be fair, I don't think Gardner (or Borges or Nussmeier for that matter) had an OL they could really trust at Michigan. That limits what you can do, or even try.
September 4th, 2017 at 1:38 AM ^
Wouldnt let a bad dline be his out for a bad defense.
September 4th, 2017 at 9:10 AM ^
Although I think you're probably right, we've only seen what Brown can do with a badass DL. He's never had (and likely will never have) a bad DL at Michigan.
September 4th, 2017 at 11:20 AM ^
He'll never have a bad anything after this game.
What elite recruit would not want to play for him?
September 3rd, 2017 at 8:17 PM ^
for a talented offensive mind like Harbaugh. He is creative. I think he might have done well on a staff like we have now. Being told to run "manball" with a couple of poor assistants and the wrong personnel wasn't a recipe for his success.
September 4th, 2017 at 12:55 AM ^
I know it's a hypothetical, but the only answer is, he wouldn't have worked for Harbaugh. JH wouldn't make the hire and wouldn't tolerate the performance. Borges didn't want to recruit on the road. It doesn't work even as a hypothetical. Borges would've quit by lunch day 1.
September 4th, 2017 at 7:44 AM ^
offensive analyst for Harbaugh. You raise an excellent point for why he wouldn't work out as an assistant coach for him.
September 4th, 2017 at 1:15 AM ^
Possibly the most condemning comment ever. And politely executed.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:09 PM ^
nonesense. Sounds like the author just grabbed a theme--trust--and tried to shoe horn a bunch of problems into it. UF players/coaches lacked 'trust.' M playes/coaches had 'trust.'
Whatever.
Here is what really happened. Michigan is a far superior team in terms of both talent and execution. Michigan is a top ten team. UF is somewhere in the 15-25 range. Simple. They just don't have the talent level or the elite coaching staff.
Michigan's D is elite. UF's offense is mediocre. Nothing to do with 'trust.' Just a great D totally stopping a mediocre O. Very hard to win when you can't move the ball.
[edit: O.k. I was too harsh. The film breakdown part of the article is good. But the end part about 'trust' is nonesense. So a mixed bag.]
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:23 PM ^
fantastic breakdown, review, and I think the lack of trust is a much larger aspect to how teams break down and fail more than you'd think.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:57 PM ^
breakdown part is good.
Not sold at all on trying to tie it all together with 'trust' as a theme. It is reach for a story line that just is not relevant to what happened in the game.
If there is a theme it is that M defense was blowing up UF's o-line, and UF had some poorly executed defensive assignments. Talent. Coaching. Athletic level (especially M d-line and LBs).
That game was won on M front 7 overwhelming UF's o-line all day long, and M's o-line holding up o.k. against the UF d-line (even getting the better of it, hence 200+ rushing yards and good pocket on several plays).
While I agree that lack of trust absolutely can be a factor on teams, that was not really a central factor on Saturday.
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:11 PM ^
"trust" is a ridiculous reason for the L. We have more talent, better coaches, and out executed Florida.
but no, clearly
it's the ciiiiiircle..........the ciiiiiircle of truuuuuuuuuuuuuust
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:29 PM ^
I did enjoy the film breakdown. especially the parts where Moe Hurst smashes EVERYONE
September 3rd, 2017 at 8:17 PM ^
May be a bit oversold in this case, but the blitz pickup discussion re the OG and RB reminded me in a weird way of how I used to explain Red Wings defensive breakdowns at the net front back in the Osgood days.
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:47 PM ^
But if you're a Florida fan, some of your program's greatest years featured Urban's "circle of trust," so...
Seriously, I thought it was a very fair piece. I enjoyed it.
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:45 PM ^
I'm going to login in later just to downvote this nonsense.
September 4th, 2017 at 8:12 AM ^
"Michigan is a top ten team. UF is somewhere in the 15-25 range. Simple."
You're right. So informative. Thanks for the analysis.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:08 PM ^
"Speight missed the throw, but it is indicative of the advanced concepts Harbaugh is running, even with his young players."
Been through most of RR and Hoke's years. Damn does this sentence make my day.
Feels good man.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^
Heck, why not add the Lloyd years in there as well.
September 4th, 2017 at 1:32 AM ^
Dont belong with that group.
September 4th, 2017 at 8:13 AM ^
Seriously. Carr had plenty of flaws, especially later on, but the dude ran a much better program than RR or Hoke.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:10 PM ^
Liked the film breakdown and reaffirmed Bush is a STUD
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:11 PM ^
I was impressed by the young guns and 3-3-5ing.
Florida also had an awful gameplan. Then again, they always do (chart borrowed from ESPN's David Hale):
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:17 PM ^
You know it's bad when Florida fans are yearning for the days of Muschamp again.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:17 PM ^
Smart stuff
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:18 PM ^
hewing pretty hard to his narrative here. Explanations are like: "we didn't get outclassed! see this play where the offensive line gets blown back two yards, making the QB trip, and then the very same defensive lineman makes an amazing tackle in open space? Yea, well, what this shows is that our coach isn't trusting our players! That's the real problem."
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:19 PM ^
Decent analysis...but I DO think Michigan is just flat out more talented in a lot of areas.
I didn't see anyone on Florida at RB, WR, TE/Eubanks, DT, SDE, ILB that can match what Michigan has...and because we play a VIPER over a 3rd LB (we win their two...almost by default).
I'm not saying their talent is bad or even average. I'm saying guys like Hurst, Gary, and Bush are ELITE athletes for this positions and just because Michigan isn't in the SEC doesn't change that.
Gary was running 4.5's. Hurst has the most explosive "get off" in the country. I said a week before the season that this is the first time our ILB isn't a typical Michigan/Wisconsin/MSU/PSU BIG TEN LINEBACKER...but he's a Bama level ILB.
Seriously, you give me any DT, any SDE, and any ILB in the country...and I don't know if I'd find 5 guys better than our 3 at their respective positions.
I didn't see any DPJ's or Tarik Black's in white helmets yesterday.
We've got DUDES and it's time people wake up and acknowledge it. This team is going to be FILTHY next year and probably just the same the year after when we get rivals at home again.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:43 PM ^
QB
1. Wilton Speight (RS Sr.)
2. Brandon Peters (RS So.) / Dylan McCaffrey (RS Fr.)
RB
1. Chris Evans (Jr.)
2. Karan Higdon (Sr.)
3. Kareem Walker (RS So.)
4. O'Maury Samuels (RS Fr.) / Kurt Taylor (RS Fr.)
6. Tru Wilson (Jr.)
FB
1. Ben Mason (So.)
2. Jared Wangler (RS Sr.)
WR
1. Tarik Black (Fr.) / Donovan Peoples-Jones (Fr.)
3. Maurice Ways (RS Sr.)
WR
1. Kekoa Crawford (So.) / Donovan Peoples-Jones (Fr.)
3. Nico Collins (So.)
SLOT
1. Grant Perry (Sr.)
2. Eddie McDoom (Jr.) / Oliver Martin (So.)
4. Nate Schoenle (RS So.)
TE1
1. Ian Bunting (RS Sr.)
2. Nick Eubanks (RS So.)
3. Zach Gentry (RS Jr.)
TE2
1. Tyrone Wheatley Jr. (RS Jr.)
2. Sean McKeon (RS So.)
LT
1. Andrew Stueber (So.) / Juwan Bushell-Beatty (RS Sr.)
3. Grant Newsome (RS Jr.)
LG
1. Ben Bredeson (Jr.)
2. Chuck Filiaga (RS Fr.)
3. Stephen Spanellis (RS So.)
C
1. Cesar Ruiz (So.)
RG
1. Michael Onwenu (Jr.)
2. Jon Runyan Jr. (RS Jr.)
3. Stephen Spanellis (RS So.)
4. Ja'Raymond Hall (RS Fr.)
RT
1. Nolan Ulizio (RS Jr.)
2. Jon Runyan Jr. (RS Jr.)
3. Joel Honigford (RS Fr.) / James Hudson (RS Fr.)
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WDE
1. Chase Winovich (RS Sr.)
2. Luiji Vilain (So.) / Kwity Paye (So.)
4. Reuben Jones (RS Jr.)
NG
1. Bryan Mone (RS Sr.)
2. Aubrey Solomon (So.)
3. Carl Meyers (RS So.) / Phillip Paea (RS Fr.)
DT
1. Lawrence Marshall (RS Sr.) / Michael Dwumfour (RS So.)
3. Donovan Jeter (So.)
SDE
1. Rashan Gary (Jr.)
2. Carlo Kemp (Jr.)
3. Ron Johnson (RS So.) / Deron Irving-Bey (RS Fr.)
OLB
1. Devin Gil (RS So.)
2. Jordan Anthony (RS Fr.)
ILB
1. Devin Bush Jr. (Jr.)
2. Josh Ross (So.)
SLB
1. Noah Furbush (RS Sr.)
2. Josh Uche (RS So.)
3. Elysee Mbem-Bosse (Jr.) / Drew Singleton (RS Fr.)
VIPER
1. Khaleke Hudson (Jr.)
2. Jordan Glasgow (RS Jr.)
3. Josh Metellus (Jr.)
CB
1. Lavert Hill (Jr.)
2. Ambry Thomas (So.)
3. Nate Johnson (Jr.) / Benjamin St.-Juste (RS Fr.)
5. Louis Grodman (RS Jr.)
CB
1. David Long (RS So.)
2. Brandon Watson (RS Sr.)
3. Drake Harris (RS Sr.)
4. Jaylen Kelly-Powell (So.)
FS
1. Tyree Kinnel (Sr.)
2. Jaylen Kelly-Powell (So.)
3. Brad Hawkins (RS Fr.)
SS
1. Josh Metellus (Jr.)
2. Jordan Glasgow (RS Jr.)
3. J'Marick Woods (So.)
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LS
1. Andrew Robinson (RS Sr.) / Camaron Cheeseman (RS So.)
K
1. Quinn Nordin (RS So.)
2. Ryan Tice (RS Jr.)
P
1. Will Hart (RS So.) / Brad Robbins (RS Fr.)
KO
1. James Foug (RS Jr.)
2. Ryan Tice (RS Jr.)
KR
1. Kekoa Crawford (Jr.)
2. Khaleke Hudson (Jr.)
PR
1. Donovan Peoples-Jones (So.)
2. Nate Johnson (Jr.)
....Hey ESPN, how many returning starters is THAT?!
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:56 PM ^
and can't make the depth chart?
Disrespekt
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:01 PM ^
He's a RS Sr. this year, he won't be on next year's team.
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:06 PM ^
Carry on
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:57 PM ^
Only sort of. Tarik Black and DPJ are still listed as Freshman.
I was confused either way.
September 3rd, 2017 at 6:17 PM ^
Oops...I tried to catch most of them. I think I got the vast majority.
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:10 PM ^
Slobbering......
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:54 PM ^
Looking at the talent at TE and seeing that Bunting didnt play or had limited reps, it seems he may not be back next year.