August 13th, 2012 at 10:15 AM ^

Being a dick & realistic are not mutually exclusive. It is realistics, but calling someone leaving the team a huge "win" is harsh, even if it opens a slot for a top of the line recruit. That being said I see where this can lead to a huge opportunity.


August 12th, 2012 at 11:47 AM ^

You can back date up to three scholarships to the year before if they are early enrollees as long as the previous year didn't hit 25.  Michigan had 25 scholarships handed out in 2012 (with 3 early enrollees) and 20 in 2011.  This is important because Michigan can back date the three early enrollees from this past spring (Wilson, Ringer, Bolden) on to the 2011 class.  This gives the 2012 class 22.  We could now take up to 28 if we had three early entrants and we had the scholarship room to do so.  I believe Ross wants to be an early enrollee and there may be a couple more as well.



August 12th, 2012 at 1:26 PM ^

not necessarily, the school uses it whichever way they need it and can back-date, more of a fluid or changeable situation actually..

similar to taking a tax deduction completed before april 15. you can use it in the previous year if you didn’t have enough, or the present year. whichever works best for you.


August 12th, 2012 at 11:49 AM ^

Hilarious how all of the apologists write excuses for the kid in the thread. I couldn't quit laughing, because the same people would have hammered this kid if he went to ND, ohiblow, etc,. He is too small, slow and a bad signing. Ahhh, but I would be a hypocrite for saying I have never had my maize glasses on high power. Just a funny observation for me. God bless and go blue!


August 12th, 2012 at 11:51 AM ^

Seemed like a good kid, just wasn't getting closer to ever playing with all the young safeties coming in.  Hope he finds a better fit and has a good life.  Good luck, Tamani.


August 12th, 2012 at 12:17 PM ^

In case anyone is curious, 30% of the 2011 class (http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/recruiting/commitments/2011/m…) is gone after only one year:

Barnett, Brown, Carter, Jones, Posada, Rock

Various reasons, as usual ... also, not too surprising given the circumstances (coaching change, timing, etc.).

Even crazier, 44% of the 2010 class (http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/recruiting/commitments/2010/m…) is somewhere else after two years:

Christian, Dorsey, Johnson, Jones, Kinard, Pace, Rogers, Talbott x 2, Vinopal, White, Williamson

For the sake of comparison, 2009 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/recruiting/commitments/2009/m…) has lost 36% of its members after three years:

Bell, Emilien, Forcier, Jones, LaLota, Stokes, Turner, Witty

Gonna be a few holes in the upperclass ranks in a couple of years ...


August 12th, 2012 at 12:24 PM ^

If Team 132 is any indication, we're very fortunate that those who stayed have grown into the type of leaders and players to mitigate the numbers problem. I expect more of the same from the seniors of Team 133 and 134 who were a part of the coaching transition and learned under the leadership of Martin, Molk, RVB, Junior, Kovacs, etc.


August 12th, 2012 at 12:26 PM ^

I don't really think that's too uncommon from a high level BCS school.  Maybe the percentage is a bit high, but I wonder what types of numbers you would see from a school like OSU or Texas.

Feat of Clay

August 12th, 2012 at 12:34 PM ^

I don't think Dorsey is in the same attrition category; he never advanced beyond "prospect" as he was never admitted. In fact no decision was ever made; it is widely assumed/reported that he was "denied" but that's not true. His candidacy ended before his application was ever completed.


August 12th, 2012 at 12:44 PM ^

Interesting but I think the circumstances are different.  The 2009 and 2010 defections were more damaging because they included some of the more talented prospects in each class.

The players who've left from 2011 were all fairly low rated and have more talented prospects in the 2012 and 2013 classes replacing them.  Arguably, Barnett is the only one who really would have been in contention for a slot on the two deep in the forseeable future.

A shame it didn't work out and hope they all find success elsewhere, but I think this is potentially a positive from an overall roster management perspective.


August 12th, 2012 at 1:04 PM ^

I knew the attrition was a tad high, but to see the numbers is amazing actually. And contrary to another poster, those numbers are high for BCS programs. There are understandable reasons as you said, but this will defintely hurt depth soon, or at least, veteran depth.