Gareon Conley won't face NFL discipline
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19294669/oakland-raiders-first-round…
Apparently, because the alleged incident happened before the draft. Doesn't this seem hypocritical of the NFL that punishes players that test positive (even for a dilute sample) at the combine (also before the draft) by making them enter the substance abuse program?
skip the combine
after you have skipped your bowl game of course
Well he did just change his story from nothing happened at all to some sexual acts happened. That's not exactly the sign of completely innocent.
The right answer is nothing. Tell the police nothing without speaking to your lawyer first. Even if you think you are just helping out, consult a lawyer before saying anything to the police.
This is very true
Do not fall for the good cop, bad cop routine. They are only interested in crossing you up & turning whatever minor discrepencies they produce into major points of contention.
I made the mistake of thinking truth was on my side & I was bullet-proof. Prosecutors only care about convictions.
Bastards.
story?
The comment was honest, the name came from using the tunnel from the golf course when going to UM football games, & George Carlin is 1 of my heros.
Asshole!
So you killed people in the golf course tunnel?!?!? I would think Craig James would be more of your hero than George Carlin.
but I will say that the charges were not violent or sexual in nature, & I was ultimately exonerated after agreeing to take their pseudo science bullshit polygraph.
Yet every show - 48 Hrs, Locked Up Somewhere, Stone Phillips, whatever - all show the suspect talking for hours without a lawyer. They always lose...
of the best scenes of all time having to do with this very issue was in The Night Of on HBO with Detective Box. And a really thought provoking indictment of the legal system in the next episode when John Turturo says "don't talk to me about the truth, the truth does not mean anything because it doesn't help you."
Really good show for those that have not watched.
also true.
Wow. Shoulda never lied in the first place, that's not a good look!
The sheer number of eye witnesses and a DNA test should be simple enough to prove if he did something wrong or not. Don't see this case taking very long, whichever way it ends up
isn't JD similarly accused of something similar?
How many times are you going to write similarly?
And NO, JD Lewis was accused of a domestic violence, NOT sexual assault/rape. Are you kidding me?
he is accused of domestic violence...
I didin't say he did anything...
both cases are simply accusations. Not sure what the NFL is supposed to do about it
What I'm a bit surprised is that apparently Conley has already changed his story from "we didn't have any sexual contact" to "it was a consensual sexual act". I know the NFL doesn't give a shit about domestic violence, sexual assault, or really women in general, but if the guy has already been caught in a lie this early in the proceedings, you'd think the league would be a little more careful about putting out this type of statement, if for no other reason than the nuance (he wasn't technically employed by an NFL team when it allegedly occurred) is going to be lost in the court of public opinion.
While vastly different offenses, Deflategate proved that the courts will uphold the Collective Bargaining Agreement the union agreed to where the commissioner has absolute authority. I expect that is the first thing that changes when it expires in 2020.
I think it's terrible and I agree with you, but that's what the players signed.
The NFL at the end of the day is a corporation, and the fields are the workplace. Just like how any business is able to suspend employees without pay due to misconduct, the NFL should be able to too.
That makes a pro sport totally different from most businesses. Its not about a right to work.
Apparently you dont mind if dog killers and rapists play. You just want to watch football and not care whatsoever about anything else. Fine. But not everyone ascribes to such a myopic view.
Teams are subject to the rules of the NFL. That's why they're "franchises" instead of completely independent entities.
If you owned a Subway franchise and you wanted to continue using pictures of Jared Fogle in all your advertising, I'm sure the central corporation would have the right to keep you from doing so. This is the same thing. The NFL tries to protect its profitability by keeping up the appearance that it gives a shit about people who do awful things.
Terrelle Pryor's henious crime of getting some tattoos was before the draft.
I was going to mention that but you beat me to it. I believe that TP was suspended for 4 games, the same 4 games his college teammates were suspended. From what I recall he agreed in advance to it though later spoke to the NFLPA about challening the suspension though I don't think that went anywhere.
the fact that it's debatable is sad. I'd go
1. BountyGate
2. DeflateGate
3. Terrell Pryor and the OSU boyz (btw, tattoogate is literally the best thing to ever happen to OSU, you lucky fucking pieces of shit)
4. Doing literally nothing on domestic violence until video of Ray Rice came out
5. Weed worse than painkillers???
6. Domestic Violence scandals outside of Ray Rice (Josh Brown, Ray McDonald)
Whether you think Tom Brady cheated or not, at the very least, he 1. was an NFL player and 2. was accused of cheating during an NFL game. Regardless of the merits, at a minimum the NFL had some jurisdiction here to investigate (and punish) Brady.
Terrelle Pryor was a college football player exercising his completely legal and independent right to voluntarily bypass his final year of college eligibility to legally enter the NFL's supplemental draft. The NFL punishing him for ????? in violation of ???? NFL rules is patently absurd.
I'm looking at the NFLPA dues deducted from my paychecks and wondering where the help was when I needed it.
There's some tough competition for that title - I still think the multi-year prosecution of deflategate takes it - but I agree that Pryor's suspension was garbage. And I'm the furthest thing from a fan of Terrelle Pryor.
PED's don't matter in the NFL, violence doesn't matter in the NFL, other misc. crimes don't matter in the NFL. The only sure way to get discipline or face repercussions is to be a convicted murderer.
I have no idea what happened that night in Cleveland or whether Conley is a good/bad/whatever person.
But I'm pretty sure the NFL can't punish Conley under the terms of the CBA, because the incident happened before the draft. So this isn't a moral judgment by the NFL so much as a limit on what they can legally do.