GA Tech Runs for 535 yards vs Hoke D Line

Submitted by SBayBlue on September 5th, 2017 at 1:44 PM

Georgia Tech ran for 535 yards and accumulated 655 total yards last night vs Brady Hoke's D line at Tennessee. TaQuon Marshall, the Tech QB, is a first year starter and ran for the most yards ever by a GT QB. Combine this with Oregon's 7th worst NCAA team rushing yards per game allowed last year means that for all of the praise Brady received for his 1997 Championship D-line, sorry to say but the man is not a defensive genius. I know the Vols didn't have a great rush D last year (107th), but after last night's performance and the upcoming SEC schedule, Tennessee will probably finish near the bottom this year.

I know people say that we should leave him alone and have nothing but kind words for him, and he is a good human being, but I think coaching has passed him by.

Why does Brady have a job anymore?

Comments

lhglrkwg

September 5th, 2017 at 2:02 PM ^

What's the guy supposed to do? He walked into a ship about 90% sunk in Oregon and didn't miraculously keep it afloat? Shocking.

Now he's walking into Champions of Life U, a school which has been wasting talent ever since Phil Fulmer was forced out, and this is indicative of Brady Hoke?

He had several years in Ann Arbor and turned out very good D-lines (with Mattison's assistance). Even Jim Harbaugh didn't have Michigan manballing in year 1. Obviously he wasn't a good head coach, but you can't seriously try to glean anything from one year with Oregon and a single stinkin game with Tennessee

reshp1

September 5th, 2017 at 2:11 PM ^

Plus GT is a weird offense that runs on everyone, and most of the yardage was on the edge on the option sweeps. Those are on the LBs and CBs getting off blocks, not on the DL. When the DL did get it put on them up the middle, it was due to getting cut blocked, which ok, they could do better, but it's not like they're alone it getting got by triple option teams. 

M-Dog

September 5th, 2017 at 2:41 PM ^

Yeah, lets not get too smug.  Be glad we did not have to play the GT triple option in our first game.

It's not fun, you risk injury, and to add insult to that injury, you look foolish doing it.

GT is Army / Navy / Air Force with D1 talent.

Um, no thanks.

 

 

Mr Miggle

September 5th, 2017 at 3:04 PM ^

Why any good team would voluntarily schedule GT is beyond me. That also applies to schools who think they should have a good team, so Tennessee is included.

The service academies are similar, but at least there's a patriotism argument. It just doesn't seem right to duck them. Plus their talent level lowers the fear factor.

Michigan4Life

September 5th, 2017 at 4:55 PM ^

because they can't be aggressive and have to maintain gap control. They lined up about a yard behind LOS because they want to combat against cut blocks.

I wouldn't put blame on Hoke for it. Tennessee defense as whole got shredded all night long. Once they think they got a hang of it, GT countered with different plays to gash them.  They couldn't stop QB counter all game long except when it counted for the 2 pt conversion.

Blue_by_U

September 5th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^

I have to disagree...the guy was hired as head coach for a major program in disrepair, mostly due to infighting and some would argue even sabotage. Hoke failed miserably and got worse each and every season to a point of near collapse. What he was required to do was WIN GAMES and he failed terribly at it. Does it make him a bad guy? nope...does it equate to him doing more for this University than most of us? hell no...I guarantee there are board members who have done far more...so he lamded a few recruits. That's like saying I did so much for you by giving you $100...right after I totaled your car and caused your house to catch fire...I mean I did just give you $100...

Aero01

September 5th, 2017 at 3:12 PM ^

Fair enough, I'll say some bad things for you: he's a bad coach who was condescending to the fans, was Brandon's lapdog, and was the only person in the stadium who wasn't "fully aware" that Morris was concussed.  The best things he did for this program were to inadvertenly help get Brandon fired and ultimately lead to Harbaugh returning.

 

ppToilet

September 5th, 2017 at 8:16 PM ^

Hoke's defense was epically bad at Oregon last year. Maybe he couldn't change things fast but they were so horrible it probably contributed to cleaning house there.  The better assessment will come this year when, with the same players, my expectation is they will be much better.

I really like Brady Hoke and honestly wish him very well. I also think he's a good coach and expect the D-Line at Tennessee to improve with him recruiting and coaching there (in that order). He's a Michigan guy through and through and I don't like people badmouthing him, however it is prudent to acknowledge some of his weaknesses.

Yeoman

September 6th, 2017 at 11:03 AM ^

Their list of DC interviews was short and not particularly impressive and...how to put this?...experienced--nobody with their career still in front of them was willing to put that job on their resume.

Then when they were announcing Hoke's hiring somebody asked Helfrich about the process and he said something like "we realized we should probably start recruiting the defensive side of the ball too." Kelly's guys were graduating (the good ones already had) and Helfrich had brought in nada.

And then the complete change of scheme, which was probably something they needed to do but only a first year coach could have gotten away with it. For a fourth-year coach on the hot seat to try it...that's desperation.

Asquaredroot

September 6th, 2017 at 1:02 AM ^

but let's revisit in a few weeks.  If I had money to bet on worst run D in SEC and that was a thing to bet on, I'd seriously consider putting it on Tennessee.

And only because Hoke is D-line coach.

After constant downward trajectory at UM and providing historically bad D at Oregon while they still had more talent available on the team than they had throughout the entirety of 70's and 80's and part of the 90's....

Track record is pretty bleak.

Nice guy though.  Maybe he should coach elementary school football.

Kevin13

September 5th, 2017 at 5:20 PM ^

he's not the DC making the defensive calls he is simply a DL coach. Sure the amount of yardage is alarming, but GT has a very good running offense which is tough to scheme against and Brady is simply the DL coach. I watched some of th game but not what the DL did exclusively.  For all we know they did their job well and the LB's were blowing assignments.  One game with Tennessee doesn't make the whole season.

LSAClassOf2000

September 5th, 2017 at 2:28 PM ^

I would disagree - it's definitely not the worst. If we were to go by sheer downvote volume, which is a fairly reliable barometer, it is probably whoever was asking why we couldn't recruit quarterbacks like Josh Rosen, perhaps forgetting that Michigan did - in fact - recruit him for a time anyway. That, and "Unhappy Anniversary". 

Jasper

September 5th, 2017 at 1:59 PM ^

Indeed. Not to mention it's the first game of the year. Georgia Tech might be really good (well, maybe).

I've long believed that Hoke has been overrated at nearly every step of his career, but he must know something (much, really).

go16blue

September 5th, 2017 at 1:56 PM ^

I'm over his firing and like the guy a lot but I do find this interesting. Since he's left Michigan he's done nothing but put together absolutely awful defenses and defensive lines in particular. Considering he was splitting those duties here with Mattison, I think this starts to paint what was once considered his one strength at Michigan in a new light. 

WestQuad

September 5th, 2017 at 4:41 PM ^

Tom Herman is a media darling and for all intents and purposes just got his ass handed to him by Maryland.  Hard to judge someone by their first year when they don't have their own players.    Not everyone is Harbaugh, which is why we're psyched about HARBAUGH! Lay off Brady.

turtleboy

September 5th, 2017 at 4:55 PM ^

Strictly from an analytical standpoint, since he left Michigan he announced for a year, and inherited two dumpster fire defenses requiring a complete rebuild. The head coach was fired after year one at Oregon, and he's had one off-season and one game at his next stop. He has a track record of being a good defensive line coach and excellent recruiter.
As a point of reference our defense the year before he arrived set records for worst defense Michigan has ever fielded. Averaging 105th place in any statistical category. Hokes first season, Michigan was 4th in the B1G and 17th nationally in total defense, and 6th in scoring, while only 39th in rushing.

ahw1982

September 5th, 2017 at 5:54 PM ^

Disagree somewhat.  Hoke seems like a nice guy, I have nothing against him personally, and wish him success in the future.  However, he was a mistake as a hire, and the cause of that mistake was the misguided idea that the predominant qualification for head coach at U-M is being from the "Michigan Family."

Unless a diet of milk and steak somehow makes you immortal, some day Michigan will be hiring for a HC again, and some group of idiots is going to point to Harbaugh as evidence that "Michigan Family" is the predominant qualification for HC at U-M.  And when that happens, we need to shove the cautionary tale that is Brady Hoke down their ignorant throats.

ShruteBeetFarms

September 5th, 2017 at 1:51 PM ^

GT triple option is a bitch and it's his first game. It's not like he's been coaching this D line for multiple years. Plus, the Tenn offense had trouble staying on the field. Even when Tenn scored they did so quickly. That Tenn D line was gassed. I'm willing to give him a pass on this game. 

 

 

The Mad Hatter

September 5th, 2017 at 1:50 PM ^

fuck your girlfriend or something OP?

No one has ever said that he's a defensive genius, only that he's a helluva D-line coach.  He's been on the job at Tenn for 5 mins that that triple-option voodoo offense puts up a shit ton of yards against pretty much everyone.

 

Rdog

September 5th, 2017 at 1:52 PM ^

Maybe he was a good D Line coach before the spread and before his first head coaching job but saying he is a proven D Line coach at this point is just silly.

I'm neither a Hoke fan or hater but Hoke was a truly terrible coach in his last 3 years at Michigan.