Fun with CFB rankings (OPEN THREAD: #2 in Sagarin, #2 in Coaches, #2 in AP, etc.)

Submitted by crg on October 23rd, 2016 at 1:59 PM

Let's have this be an open thread for the various rankings that come out through the day:

 

 

Comments

LSAClassOf2000

October 23rd, 2016 at 9:03 AM ^

Sagarin looks like it is up-to-date as of yesterday's games, and we see Michigan at #2, below only Alabama. 

Other Big Ten notables:

#3 - Ohio State

#10 - Wisconsin

#24 - Nebraska

#31 - Penn State

#34 - Iowa

#44 - Northwestern

So, seven Big Ten teams in the top 50.

LINK

 

drzoidburg

October 24th, 2016 at 7:14 AM ^

meh i never believed in conference pride, but it really blows my mind when we play the other division twice a decade and the massive betrayal known as inviting rutgers (or keeping pedo state, take your pick). This has become nothing but an association of $ making

I'm more eager to see colorado and washington succeed than freaking northwestern (another $ making invite)

crg

October 23rd, 2016 at 9:08 AM ^

To kick things off, Jeff Sagarin's rankings were out almost immediately.  His algorithm favors SoS and point totals strongly (and some other factors) that skew the results more than one would expect.  Here are some fun observations:

  • OSU losing to a 20+ point underdog only dropped them to #3, while their SoS is #40 and ours is #50
  • A 3-4 Ole Miss is ranked #12 above the following teams: undefeateds Baylor #14, West Virginia #15, Nebraska #24, Boise St #26, and WMU #23
  • 4 SEC in top ten,3 Big Ten, 2 ACC, and 1 PAC
  • Sparty #68

sum1valiant

October 23rd, 2016 at 9:20 AM ^

I really don't understand the Ole Miss love, and it won't go away. They've blown a massive lead to a fraudulent FSU, blew the same lead to Bama, lost to an Arkansas team that had their doors blown off by Auburn yesterday, and then gave up 38 points to an LSU offense.

mGrowOld

October 23rd, 2016 at 9:44 AM ^

The SEC/ESPN alliance has built an infinity machine when it comes to rankings.  SEC team loses to another SEC team and both go up in rankings as both played a VERY HARD GAME AGAINST AN EXCELLENT OPPONENT thereby raising the SOS of both.  Winning team goes up, obviously, because they defeated an excellent foe.  Losing team goes up because they lost to a team even more excellent than originally thought.

The only way to shut it down is to do what OSU did in 2014 and beat them.  Get jailsexed like MSU did last year  and the hype machine rolls on.

ak47

October 23rd, 2016 at 10:16 AM ^

To be fair on a neutral field I would expect Ole Miss to beat Nebraska, Boise and WMU without much thought and they would certainly be favorites over Baylor and WVU.  Sagarin ratings are supposed to be who are actually the best teams, the other polls are about who has had a better season. Can be two different answers.

ak47

October 23rd, 2016 at 1:04 PM ^

Because they have talent.  Yes they completely collapsed but they still had those big leads and put up 43 points on a bama team thats given up over 10 points one other time this season.  They haven't finished this year but they have played well enough in spurts to show at their best they are still competitive with some actually good team. Nebrasksa is competitive with Purdue.

The Mad Hatter

October 23rd, 2016 at 9:30 AM ^

I haven't watched then play at all this year, but I'm assuming they'll stay ranked #1 until they lose.

I'll be interested to see how far OSU falls in the AP. I mean, PSU was unranked ffs.

stephenrjking

October 23rd, 2016 at 9:37 AM ^

Baja gets a lot of hype, as the post below illustrates, but they are in fact really good. Their DL is on our level, they have athletes everywhere, and their offense is very effective. They ran for 400 yards against Tennessee, for example.

And they've scored a non-offensive TD in every game this season.

Honestly, they look like a juggernaut. If we play them we will be a substantial underdog and that won't just be hype.

But, you know, that's why they play the games.