Sports

November 16th, 2014 at 9:04 PM ^

Didn't want to post my opinions in the post and editorialize it, but if this is true, and obviously we have to wait for due process to know for sure, then fuck this guy. 

M-Dog

November 16th, 2014 at 9:30 PM ^

If true, he's bad news.  We don't do that shit here at Michigan, no matter what else is going on around the program.

And before we all get on a roll, this is not Brady Hoke's fault.  Don't try to spin this into a "He's losing his team and that's why Clark did this."  That's not why Clark did this.  

MGoBrewMom

November 16th, 2014 at 9:41 PM ^

but *we* do do this shit at Michigan. It is everywhere. We just need to hold those accountable to the fullest extent.

this makes me so sad for obvious reasons. you just want to know these guys are good people. Also, how does such a young guy get to such a dark place.

If this is true, I hope the gf knows how not ok this is, and I hope he owns it and gets real help.

MGoBrewMom

November 16th, 2014 at 10:18 PM ^

It is a horrible societal problem. It comes from somewhere. That anger and inability to control actions to a reasonable extent. That is in no way an excuse, but there are big, big issues. People who do this have seen it as an example throughout their lives, or haven't been taught...or something. Usually it is a gigantic circle of disfunction that just continues over time. This is true of those who stay with their abusers too. Just so friggin sad.

Again, IF true, I hope he gets help. I hope that first and foremost (along with HER getting help too). Secondly, I hope he owns it. People like to forgive. We like a comeback story. That won't be happening immediately. The behavior can't be tolerated, and I hope like hell it is not. Tolerating bullshit like this is the type of thing that would make me give up my season tickets--over any on the field performance. I can't think this will be. Meanwhile, I hope like hell he straightens himself out. What a wasted opportunity. Sad...and super sad for the girlfriend.

JHendo

November 16th, 2014 at 10:49 PM ^

One can certainly say there is a purpose behind it (dominance of course being the major one that we also unfortunately see as the psychotic "purpose" behind sexual assault cases).  However, regardless of the purpose, there is an obvious self control issue with perpertrators of domestic violence. 

The fact that they can't in the moment realize how irrational their actions and do it any ways (regardless of purpose) points to these people having an impulse control disorder and/or an intermittent explosive disorder (this in combination with stealing the laptop situation certainly makes me lean towards believing Frank may have the former).  If left untreated, these  people pose a continuing threat to those near them.

Sports

November 16th, 2014 at 9:11 PM ^

Lawyer types, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that she can change her mind on that one. I also think that, if true, he's off the team. He could be untouchable for the draft as well, given that the league is trying to repair its image as enablers of domestic violence and that he plays on a middling team in a bad conference. Could be viewed as unworthy of the draft risk. 
 

But even if something doesn't "come of it," it's still deplorable and should be condemned in the strongest possible terms. 

JHendo

November 16th, 2014 at 10:59 PM ^

Statute of limitations for a misdameanor is 2 years, and for a felony is 5 or 6.  Since Frank was arrested and there was a police report, the evidence certainly will exist in the system to pursue it if she changes her mind within the appropriate time frame.

As for the NFL, with the hard nose stance the NFL is finally taking on domestic abuse, it certainly seems that ship has sailed for him (depending on the outcome of this...or maybe not even).

Tony Soprano

November 16th, 2014 at 9:23 PM ^

Because abused women (or men) don't always want to report it or press charges because often times they fear revenge from the abuser for doing so, law enforcement has taken it out of the hands of the victims - the officers are to arrest the perpetrator and charges will be filed where there is evidence of domestic violence, regardless of whether the victim wants that or not. 

Baloo

November 16th, 2014 at 9:20 PM ^

Any state's attorney's office can always press charges regardless of what the victim wants.  The term "press charges" is really just an inaccurate way to describe victim cooperation.