Friday Night Open/Drinking Thread
Well ladies and gents, we're less than16 hours hours away from kick-off. Not much football on TV tonight (San Jose St. vs. Hawaii), so not much else to do but drink. So, what's in everyone's glass tonight?
Also, because it's a Rivalry Week, let's all share the moments when we knew we'd be Wolverine fans instead of Spartan fans (or vice versa for our rational Sparty friends), shall we?
I'll start us off. I'm sipping on an ice cold Leinenkugel's Oktoberfest, and I knew I was a Michigan fan in 3rd grade when my MSU-grad teacher kept talking about how great being a Spartan was, effectively dividing the class into two factions. I just didn't like the way she was talking, so I sided with the Maize and Blue side of the class, and haven't looked back ever since (this decision was solidified when I watched Woodson and the 1997 team win the National Championship as an 11 year old).
Happy Drinking, and Go Blue!
October 14th, 2011 at 8:24 PM ^
I'll move on to the harder stuff later. I had a lot of labs and a midterm this week so I'm still going from "tense" to "relaxed" conformation. #biochemistry-humor
As for State, I didn't meet one of their fans growing up in central Ohio. Not one. I only noticed them in college, and even then not that often.
October 14th, 2011 at 8:42 PM ^
Franzia and starting on Walking Dead with the girlfriend tonight. Oddly enough, couldn't ask for a much better Friday night (except she's ditching me at noon tomorrow for her "softball game").
As far as State fans go, my childhood best friend's family are deep MSU. His grandfather was profiled in Sports Illustrated as one of their "top ten college sports fans in America" (which is basically just, who spends a ton on memorabilia) and hosts the basketball pregame show, or used to at least. His beach house has an S shaped deck and Tom Izzo comes over for BBQ's. Needless to say, they were annoying about MSU.
October 14th, 2011 at 8:48 PM ^
Tell me why I should like or dislike Keynes. (Or at least why you do or don't.)
October 14th, 2011 at 9:25 PM ^
For a very simplified answer, you should not like Keynes. Obviously this is as biased as me telling you who a good presidential candidate in 2012 is, but that is my belief.
For a more detailed answer, I would look up anything with the keywords Austrian Business Cycle Theory, Hans-Hermann Hoppe Keynes, Ludwig von Mises Keynes, or Friedrich Hayek Keynes. ABCT is the most concise explination, IMO, especially if you're talking about Keynes' most famous positions about fiscal stimulus and the like.
I'd gladly answer a more specific (i.e. esoteric) question, but Keynes is no less a polarizing figure than Obama (or any other sitting politician, he's just the guy in charge so I picked him), and I don't want to offend a bunch of MGoReaders (which I've probably done already).
October 14th, 2011 at 9:43 PM ^
A good friend of mine is a PhD candidate in Economics, and looks to the Great Depression and its handling by Roosevelt as a quasi-model (quasi indeed) for how to deal with situations like ours.
I asked him whether the recovery from the GD was on account of the new deal approach, wartime production, both or neither. His response:
"Roosevelt was smart: he shut down all the banks, nationalized them, and then closed down all the sick banks, and kept the healthy banks open.
The wartime spending helped. However, he tried to balance the budget just at the point when the economy was about to recover, and this sent the economy back into another recession."
Thoughts?
October 14th, 2011 at 10:16 PM ^
Again, this is tough to answer within the constraints of board rules. I will tell you that I do not believe FDR had a good model for recovery (business cycle theory), that WWII had mixed results (this is rooted in the method of calculation involved and political controls at the time [conscription, price controls, ect]), and I don't know enough about FDR's budgets to claim to know about any effects a specific one might have had.
October 14th, 2011 at 9:46 PM ^
Been a wolverine. My mother told me I wore a michigan tshirt on my first day of kgarten.
Drinking a SA Bonfire Rauchbier watching the Hawaii game
October 14th, 2011 at 9:04 PM ^
BD - I'd be interested to know what you regularly listen to, and why.
Do the common man (myself) and those trained in music theory (you) treasure different musical experiences? What speaks to the latter type? Does a more detailed understanding lead to richer, more sophisticated enjoyment? Is there a postmodern era in music as there is in art, ethics, epistemology, and politics? What are its foundations? (Our common ancestor here is obviously Rousseau, who was a political philosopher and also created his own notation for music, which he unfortunately couldn't sell to anyone.)
So there's a game being played tomorrow, but I propose we address far more trivial things.
October 14th, 2011 at 10:44 PM ^
is traditionally marked at WWI. Michigan music theory courses end and begin at this juncture. Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring is also up there as a big piece that helped spark the movement. A key element is the elevation of rhythm and rhythmic motives to a position equal to, if not greater than, the traditional hegemony of melody.
Musical experiences to me are more vivid if I had a part in performing them. For example, I got to accompany two performances of The Nutcracker when I was in high school, and those are memories that I will carry with me for a lifetime. A close second would be pieces that I analyzed in music theory class and actually understood--Beethoven piano sonatas are traditionally analyzed by second-years at Michigan for their fine treatment of the classical sonata form. Classically trained musicians love virtuoso electric guitar solos as much as anybody, but a more detailed understanding usually allows one to appreciate more kinds of music. The aesthetics of, for example, Webern are very hard to understand unless one spends time parked in front of a score tracing out the tone rows and cross-checking against a recording.
I've been bad at listening to classical music since I graduated and became a pre-med. I still love it and have lists of my favorite pieces in my head, but my motivation to listen to it has been lessened. Part of that is because I haven't found the time to transfer my collection from my old, junky laptop to my new laptop. But your question still stands. I've been listening to a lot of Zero 7 lately. They're best known for "In the Waiting Line" in the movie Garden State and I find their aesthetic very relaxing. I love Aphex Twin, they're hard-core electronica. Pet Shop Boys is softer, more tuneful R&B-styled electronica with a good dose of goofy Britishness.
October 14th, 2011 at 11:13 PM ^
The closest I ever got to the world of classical music was a night at the proms at Royal Albert Hall in London. I was quite sincerely blown away that night (FWIW, the orchestra that night played 'The Rite of Spring'). All the prommers standing on the floor (and most of the audience, for that matter) knew the notes down to the very last detail, and erupted at the last note as the conductor waved his outstretched baton from left to right over the entire orchestra, which played accordingly as it passed over them like a wave. I'll never forget that moment.
Unfortunately (and I deeply regret this), it was not sufficient to sustain my interest in classical music. I think this says more about me than it does the performance or the music itself.
October 14th, 2011 at 11:14 PM ^
I was more interested it when I was younger but it isn't my music of choice anymore (for now). Of course, if I acquired a recording of all one hundred-odd symphonies that Haydn wrote, I would happily listen to all of them and drink up the classical form like nectar. Some composers like Haydn just speak to me on a basic level. I also want to make my own reeds again, but I don't have the financial resources to buy all of the equipment I need (about $600 or so). So, I have to make do with the reeds I have, and my performances aren't as good as a result. If I was still a music major I would have bought the equipment by now.
October 14th, 2011 at 8:34 PM ^
Because of all the baseball games and being a lazy 3L, I might not have anything tonight. Need to save up for tomorrow.
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<br>Eh, let's be real. Probably tall boy PBRs
October 14th, 2011 at 9:49 PM ^
You're a real hipster, you!
October 14th, 2011 at 8:40 PM ^
Debating on whether to open a Founders CBS bomber tonight or wait for tomorrow night in celebration of beating MSU
October 14th, 2011 at 8:43 PM ^
Im just getting piss drunk and networking with the boys, should be a looong night, Definitely. I can't wait upntil tomorrow and I'm shaking I'm so nervous. I'vve had a gin and juice, whiskey and coke, vodka and cran, three coors lights, a 40 of colt , and something else or two too. LET"S GO BIG BLUE!!!
October 14th, 2011 at 8:43 PM ^
i'm taking vicodin so no drinking
October 14th, 2011 at 11:45 PM ^
October 14th, 2011 at 8:48 PM ^
Michigan Michigan State from 2007 on BTN right now. No drinking needed for this game.
October 14th, 2011 at 9:48 PM ^
I'm watching it. That play by Crable on Ringer's long run was ridiculous. Crable almost gets Ringer down in the backfield but Ringer keeps his balance, reverses field, and makes a huge gain. The only reason it's not a touchdown is because Crable (out of all the other defenders who can't) somehow gets back to his feet and chases him down. Excellent play by Crable (even though he didn't finish the tackle the first time).
October 14th, 2011 at 9:49 PM ^
Touchdown Manningham!
October 14th, 2011 at 9:52 PM ^
CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!?!?!?!? hahaha
I think that will be Hemingway doing that tomorrow...
October 14th, 2011 at 9:53 PM ^
It reminded me of Roundtree's catch at the end of the ND game.
October 14th, 2011 at 10:01 PM ^
I was in the Sparty student-section for that game and I couldn't believe that play Crable made. He got beat bad on one side of the field and somehow caught Ringer 50 yards downfield on the opposite sideline. Crable was an incredible athlete.
October 14th, 2011 at 8:49 PM ^
New Holland's Ichabod followed by Dogfish Head Punkin' Ale followed by Shipyard Brewery's Smashed Pumpkin.
If anyone has not had any of these, I highly reccommend them.
Also, the 2007 Michigan at MSU game is on BTN. Watching Henne and Hart ochestrate a win in East Lansing is wonderous.
October 14th, 2011 at 9:38 PM ^
I wish Wisconsin could get Dogfish head :(
October 14th, 2011 at 8:52 PM ^
I have been on a huge wine kick since I moved to Chicago and have a great wine shop just around the corner. Trying (I believe) my first red rhone wine. Interesting shape to it. Not sure whether I'm a huge fan or not but I lke to experiment with different grapes.
October 14th, 2011 at 9:24 PM ^
wines can be very shapely,,,,just finished a bottle of Rasteaux Cote du Rhone Village.....and I like the shape I'm in.
October 14th, 2011 at 8:54 PM ^
Orange Cream flavored Stewart's. Don't hate.
October 14th, 2011 at 8:54 PM ^
drinking IPA's and watchin the 2007 game on BTN
Life is good.
October 14th, 2011 at 8:54 PM ^
a lucious, ice cold natty light. Mmmmm
October 14th, 2011 at 9:23 PM ^
All HAIL natty!!!
October 14th, 2011 at 8:55 PM ^
Boozing hard at the Griffins game with some Blue.
October 14th, 2011 at 9:23 PM ^
I miss those days. Cleveland is a cold, hard place after living in Grand Rapids for a few years.
October 14th, 2011 at 9:08 PM ^
Enjoying a whiskey and coke wishing I was in E.L. for the game again. I have been at the last two UM-MSU games in East Lansing. One one a much better time than the other for obvious reasons.
October 14th, 2011 at 9:13 PM ^
Just finished off a Bell's Amber Ale. As for when I knew I'd be a Michigan fan, well, my dad went to Michigan and I was a pretty bright kid so Michigan was pretty much preordained. I was lucky that way...
October 14th, 2011 at 9:14 PM ^
Pliney the Elder IPA on draft...
October 14th, 2011 at 9:44 PM ^
Wow, I'm pretty jealous! I hear that is a great brew.
October 15th, 2011 at 1:08 AM ^
October 14th, 2011 at 9:20 PM ^
so I'm on antibiotics, and thus- no alcohol. However, and they prescribed me a bottle of some really good cough syrup. Tastes terrible, but it kicks like a mule
October 14th, 2011 at 9:22 PM ^
Bar passage = Crown on the rocks.
October 14th, 2011 at 9:58 PM ^
Congrats!!
October 14th, 2011 at 10:42 PM ^
Hey Blue, well done. You're the next Bob Loblaw. Huge Congrats.
October 14th, 2011 at 10:49 PM ^
his own law blog?
October 15th, 2011 at 12:16 AM ^
Congrats!
October 15th, 2011 at 7:33 AM ^
Are you going to be new competition for Bolivian representation?
October 15th, 2011 at 7:50 AM ^
Thanks everyone
October 14th, 2011 at 9:26 PM ^
Jim Beam Rye. Straight.
Also, watching this Hawaii vs. San Jose St. game is like watching high school football. God help you, Tate Forcier.
October 14th, 2011 at 11:54 PM ^
I just picked up some Bulleit rye, which is delicious. Currently having a moose drool brown ale. Go Blue!
October 14th, 2011 at 9:31 PM ^
Going with The Kraken and Dr. Pepper tonight.
October 14th, 2011 at 9:33 PM ^
jack and coke watching ghost adventures with the family