Friday Night NCAAFB Thread - Colorado @ Toledo
Game's not for another couple hours, but it has schadenfreude written all over it. Hawkins guaranteed 10 wins this season, and he's already got one loss to in-state rival Colorado State. They play at Toledo tonight, which shouldn't be very good at all, but could be a tough game for the Buffaloes. Supposedly Toledo is a lot worse this year (lost 52-31 to Purdue last week), but Colorado is only a 3.5 point favorite from the lines I've seen.
Hawkins' kid is supposed to start at QB again, and their big running back prospect may or may not play this week. The guy was projected to be huge for them, but he was benched last week for poor pass blocking.
Being a Friday game, Toledo is on a day's less rest than normal, while the Buffaloes are even shorter. They played CSU on Sunday, giving them just 4 days to prepare.
So what do you think? Can Toledo pull off the upset?
Game is on ESPN at 9pm ET.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:47 PM ^
I've got a ton of money on Colorado tonight. They better win and win by more than 5 points. Please!!
September 11th, 2009 at 9:43 PM ^
Colorado is worse than I thought. This is not good.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:53 PM ^
For the highest rated RB out of HS, Darrell Scott is pretty slow.
September 12th, 2009 at 1:39 AM ^
I was just in Vegas and bet the Buffs heavy, too. When I told my friend, a CU alum, he told me I was an idiot and that, "Toledo is going to kick our F-ing ass." Guess he was right.
September 12th, 2009 at 6:46 AM ^
Oops.
Sorry for your loss.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:52 PM ^
i wouldn't say toledo is worse. last year they were 3-9 so i doubt they will be worse. their qb passed for like 400 yards against purdue, just the defense couldn't get it done. they will be better. michiganstudent, this was a bad game to bet on. the glass bowl is a pretty hard place to play and i like the rockets' chances.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:57 PM ^
44-11 their last 55 games. Could be tough.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:52 PM ^
I was visiting family in Denver last weekend, and we checked out Boulder on Sunday for the pregame (beatdown) festivities. Maybe it was because the game was on a Sunday/Labor Day, but man, the campus was DEAD considering it was a rivarly game. A loss to Toledo would expadite Hawkins' pink slip which is what many-a CU fan was asking for.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:13 PM ^
I went there for my freshman year in 2007. It's not a huge pregaming campus like Michigan. Everybody is too busy smoking pot
September 11th, 2009 at 7:31 PM ^
Hey there I go to CU and the reason that everyone was bummed was because there were some high hopes this season and then the CSU fans celebrated on our field.. Pretty embarrassing, CU wont win more than 5 games this season and Hawkins will be gone by December. But to say we done pregame hard is ridiculous you were probably 18 when you got here and afraid to get in trouble.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:15 PM ^
hey now, I love CU and kinda wish I never left. WIth that said, all I'm saying is that yes Boulder parties hearty, but compared to the pregame festivities of Ann Arbor... not so much. Maybe it's the shear volume of people and parties but it was a shock.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:44 PM ^
My apologies I thought you were hating on CU. I love michigan football like I love my mother but Im glad I go to school here.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:16 PM ^
ha no problem man. I love the school here and think I'm a better fit, but man oh man Boulder cannot be beat. Waking up every morning and seeing the flat irons, parties on the Hill and most of all sun in the winter! Glorious. I don't care if it's in Denver, I'm coming back for med school
September 11th, 2009 at 10:29 PM ^
Amen brother, too bad the football team is terrible. Atleast I had my moment running on the field after West Virginia last year and Oklahoma the year before that.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:54 PM ^
Go Rockets!
I'll never forgive Colorado for that Hail Mary. As a Steeler fan, I could never forgive Kordell Stewart either.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:59 PM ^
That hurt. So did 10-13.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:58 PM ^
10-13 I'd argue was much worse and painful of a defeat than the Colorado "Miracle at Michigan". At least Colorado was actually good back then.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:08 PM ^
I did everything I could to let that one die.
I prefer to live remembering Bruce G's last second TD to beat #9 Pitt. Probably the greatest moment in Toledo football history.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:56 PM ^
of the Toledo/Purdue game - it is obvious that Toledo's D sucks, but I think they can score points.
CU looked awful against CSU, Hawkins is a terrible qb, CU's 5* shirtless RB is not allowed to touch the football, I really think the Rockets can score enough to win.
This game should be a great train wreck to watch.
Colorado might get debacled and further fade into Bolvian.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:58 PM ^
i will be at this game seeing how i attend the University of Toledo. looking forward to seeing Colorado in person. Big fan of Hawkins but disappointed with what he has done at Colorado. Toledo has a piss poor defense (although you wouldn't have known that from last year against Michigan, which i was at. must have been the only wolverine fan in that crowd.) with that said, if Toledo can hang some points on the board they can hang in there for a half. i think the second half Colorado should pull away. This should hold me over until junior varsity football at 12 on Saturday and then the Men of Meeeechigan run out the tunnel and hitting the banner with a nasty side of them.
Should be fun for a half. either way, its football right?
Go Blue!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:09 PM ^
Hawk is just a placeholder - he is our Tommy Amaker: mild success mixed with crushing disappointment on the field; no dumbass self inflicted wounds (like the Barnett era strippers and weed and kegs and slush funds and assorted felonies less than outright murder off it).
We're getting our JB equivalent coach next season. If there is a god, anyway.
I met Hawk last year. Great guy. He would do really well in the MAC.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:14 PM ^
I just hope one of the two Schools (CU and UM) I have attended can beat Toledo haha. Maybe I'm just bad luck
September 11th, 2009 at 7:52 PM ^
CU's schedule this season as follows:
9-6-09 COLORADO STATE (Sun.) LOST 17-23
9-11-09 at Toledo (Fri.) - Toss-up
9-19-09 WYOMING - Likely win
10-1-09 at West Virginia (Thur.) - Likely loss
10-10-09 at Texas - Crushing loss
10-17-09 KANSAS - Likely loss
10-24-09 at Kansas State - Toss-up
10-31-09 MISSOURI - Likely loss
11-7-09 TEXAS A&M - Toss-up
11-14-09 at Iowa State - Likely win (?)
11-19-09 at Oklahoma State (Thur.) - Crushing loss
11-27-09 NEBRASKA (Fri.) - Definite loss
CU might only win 4 or 5 games this season. Hawk is in his 4th year in Boulder, and his team has taken a step back since a much-improved 2007 (6-7 with a bowl loss compared to 2006's 2-10 debacle).
But he seems like a good person, light years better than that scumbag Gary Barnett.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:23 PM ^
Touchdown, Rockets.
Toledo goes for two on a trickish-type play and fails.
6-0, Toledo.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:24 PM ^
by the Rockets - not so sure about the two point conversion attempt - they've been watching too much Boise State
September 11th, 2009 at 9:37 PM ^
Ahh Toledo has one of those ridiculous technicolor signal boards for their playcalling.
Also, how is it that Toledo's blue is allegedly darker than Michigan's and yet, it somehow seems more blue? (This is not a complaint, mind you. I love the depth of the navy in Michigan's jerseys, it's just confusing that Toledo's Midnight Blue would be darker than Michigan's Navy Blue.)
Also, Toledo just scored again on a 70 yard pass play. This is an entertaining team.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:06 PM ^
Toledo usually is nothing if not entertaining. High flying offenses that play way outside of their talent range are a staple at Secor and Dorr. Oh yeah.
Also a history of talented RB's. DaJuan Collins is just the next.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:37 PM ^
CU looks terrible - their pass defense is awful thus far.
Long pass for Toledo (mostly YAC), 13-0 with the PAT.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:40 PM ^
Colorado is not used to the low altitude. They should have come in a day sooner.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:41 PM ^
Every time CU seems about to do something right, they screw up.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:58 PM ^
so, who will be coaching the buffs next year?
September 11th, 2009 at 9:58 PM ^
Looks a whole lot better now.
And that freshmen for Toledo Eric Page is a local kid who many expect him to be a stud among the MAC competition.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:00 PM ^
50 yarder
Not looking good for the Buffs
September 11th, 2009 at 10:05 PM ^
Something you never want to hear as a coach of a team playing Toledo... "It just looks obvious that Toledo's skill players look much, much better." Ouch.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:08 PM ^
run defense is terrible - Smart move by Hawkins to run Scott a lot
September 11th, 2009 at 10:11 PM ^
tough to come away with no points on that.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:13 PM ^
I hate Toledo, but I can't pull for a team with Bologna Clemons on the roster.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:24 PM ^
In this classic rant from 2007, Hawkins sure makes it sound like the Buffs' summer conditioning program was mandatory. Why wasn't Rosenberg all over this?
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September 11th, 2009 at 10:29 PM ^
So is Magnus around? If so, he can go ahead and Pink Slip Dan Hawkins.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:29 PM ^
CU is in trouble. UT's QB had a nice QB draw for the TD
23-3, Rockets.
Edit: jmblue, what the crap did you do? This thread just became Charlie Weis.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:29 PM ^
offense is looking pretty damn good - nice run by the QB - he's putting up big numbers
LOL - Bob Davie is now saying that Toledo is much faster than the Buffs - that is not a good thing
September 11th, 2009 at 10:31 PM ^
Hawkins is gonna go absolutely ballistic in the locker room at halftime.
Replay shows this as a legit hold.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:38 PM ^
This is so much better than I expected. Too bad I missed the first half.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:55 PM ^
Seriously, how bad is Colorado?
September 11th, 2009 at 11:02 PM ^
Really freakin' bad...eeeeesh. This is bleak.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:56 PM ^
Hawkins may have just knocked Al Groh off of the hottest seat in the country
September 11th, 2009 at 11:02 PM ^
My boys at the UT getting it DONE! WHOO!
September 11th, 2009 at 11:08 PM ^
anybody else hear the announcers say Toledo was split into teams in the off season for small stuff, and the losing team had to do 4am workouts?! hmmm where's Rosenberg?
September 11th, 2009 at 11:10 PM ^
Needed my 20th post and this was the first topic.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:10 PM ^
Needed my 20th post and this was the first topic.