Laser Wolf

January 22nd, 2016 at 10:46 AM ^

I found it most interesting that they told Richardson his offer was not committable. I thought we had heard they were extremely high on him. Perhaps they feel good about Hill and maybe even Fuller.

M-Dog

January 22nd, 2016 at 12:27 PM ^

Spath said this:

On Thursday, Kiante Enis and Antwaine Richardson also decommitted from Michigan because they no longer held a committable offer. And both Enis and Richardson were Harbaugh-offered recruits.
 

I wonder if Spath has different info than Sam Webb, or if he was just misunderstanding Richrdson's actual situation?

bluebyyou

January 22nd, 2016 at 11:53 AM ^

There are always two sides to every story.  While Harbaugh may not always get it right, I have the feeling that he is not the kind of person that would intentionally do something to hurt a recruit.  That is simply not whom Harbaugh would seem to be. Even with Harbaugh's occasional insanity, I know of no instance where his actions didn't show concern for a recruit or a player.  Can things happen that are not ideal?  Of course.  

Recruiting is a tough business.  For starters, even in the best of circumstances, you are dealing with a commit that may say goodbye to a program for a myriad of reasons that leave you high and dry.  You need to look no further than what Beilein went through with his last bout of recruiting.  All offers come with contingencies attached, even for a top recruit.

Michael Spath's article, I thought, was a fair depiction of what took place.

Steves_Wolverines

January 22nd, 2016 at 2:05 PM ^

I don't want to be "that guy" that starts yet another Swenson thread, but our buddy over at the Chicago Tribune has written his response to the new details regarding this situation:

Mr. Teddy Greenstein: Link? Link: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-harbaugh-michigan-recruiting-20160122-column.html

"9. I hope Harbaugh remains at Michigan for another 20 years because college football is way more interesting with him around. I also hope he realizes that the way he’s acting is unseemly. A great school deserves better."

michigandune

January 22nd, 2016 at 3:09 PM ^

These hack reporters like Teddy Greenstein and Nick Baumgardner are out looking for clicks. These guys did no research before publishing there bullshit. There is no other side according to them. It just shows you that they don’t like Harbaugh and will write anything they feel like to belittle Jim.

I don’t get how these guys do not get called out for this terrible reporting. I guess you can say just about anything you want.

 

MGlobules

January 22nd, 2016 at 11:23 AM ^

"So if you’re Harbaugh and Co., and the young man has rejected your desire for him to come camp and then you watch him this fall and he’s not performing the way you want in a offensive lineman you’re trying to build a program around, do you honor a scholarship that you didn’t offer in the first place?"

Let's remember that it's Swenson who decomitted.

Lie-Cheat-Steal

January 22nd, 2016 at 12:37 PM ^

They LOSE the right way.  That's my point.  Pat on the back to old Pat, but they lose. 

Harbaugh coaches to win, not for congratulatory handshakes and Midwest mediocrity.  I'm not advocating Saban or Meyer level sleaze, but having expectations of your incoming recruits to not coast their senior year of HS and keep competing is not outlandish.

Perhaps if Hoke had such standards, D. Green would not have come in 20 pounds over weight.

Lie-Cheat-Steal

January 22nd, 2016 at 12:33 PM ^

enable criminals and murderers in my football program, cheat on my wife with coeds, run away from my job with "health" problems when it is clear that my program is falling apart and another coach in my conference is eating m lunch.  I hold disingenuous bible study groups, write of PR based "promises" to my family, and in general have no moral or ethical foundation.

But I win a lot.

UMBSnMBA

January 22nd, 2016 at 11:28 AM ^

Sorry, Northwestern doesn't have to deal with this because 80% of the kids aren't coming anyway.  In Michigan's case, they have a legit chance every time that they make an offer so these situations are going to arise.  The flip side is that there are a lot of kids who benefited big time from getting the Michigan offer even if it was not commitable.  In many cases they got the Harbaugh bump in rankings and when Michigan offers, they end up on the radar for every major program in country. 

I don't believe that there is one of you who would complain about losing a Rashad Weaver (great kid, no knock on him) if it was necessary to free up space for a Rashan Gary.  The reality is that the elite kids hold off committing until NSD or just before.  How do you manage that if you are on the final list of possibilities for 1 or more of these kids?  As long as that is the case, there are going to be kids disappointed at the last minute despite your best intentions.

If you don't want the elite talent it isn't a problem.  If do, I don't see how you solve it.

BlueMan80

January 22nd, 2016 at 2:31 PM ^

and he's been rather pro-Harbaugh so far, but when I read his article in the Tribune this morning, I had the same thought as the OP.  There's 2 sides to every story and Harbaugh can't state his side.  By the time he can, there will be no point in discussing it.  So, Greenstein comes across as a pure mudslinger with imunity. 

MGoUP

January 22nd, 2016 at 10:51 AM ^

Doesn't sound like a kid that wants to put in the effort to be great.  Wouldn't camp at Michigan, slacked his senior year.  You think Harbaugh wants a guy like that around?  While the process might be shady to some, Swenson has nobody to blame but himself for not being at Michigan.  Things just don't get handed to you.

DonAZ

January 22nd, 2016 at 11:19 AM ^

Things just don't get handed to you.

This is why I think this settles out as a net positive once the dust settles.

The message Harbaugh seems to be sending is the expectations for competitive improvement are ever-present ... and just because a recruit commits does not mean they can relax. 

That will drive some recruits away from Michigan.  But that will also draw the hyper-competitive recruits to Michigan.  And by all accounts, it's the latter type that Harbaugh wants.  In time, the hyper-competitive and naturally talented will come.  And that will be awesome.

Gameboy

January 22nd, 2016 at 11:42 AM ^

No one will convince me that replacing Swensen with Spanellis is worth all the negative press and recruiting that we are/ will be getting. This is a class of 30, and OL is almost impossible to project with any confidence. This was a foibar.

xxxxNateDaGreat

January 22nd, 2016 at 12:11 PM ^

I'd rather have a kid willing to work and prove himself than someone who supposedly coasted for a year and ignored the requests of the coaches.

And you are right, O lineman are hard to predict, as evidence by the many 4-5 stars we signed who aren't playing for the team anymore. I'll take a player who will work over one who coasts any day.

4godkingandwol…

January 22nd, 2016 at 12:27 PM ^

... you have to be true to who you are.  If you give someone a chance, several chances, and they don't show they have what it takes to be a part of the vision you are building towards, you have to stick to your principles.  Losing those, because of a mean Chicago Tribune columnist and the FREEP, means your spine is not made of steal.  

wahooverine

January 22nd, 2016 at 12:43 PM ^

Absolutely wrong. Sam, Brian etc. talked on the latest podcast that Swenson's senior film is simply not good.  Tim Drevno, you know, the ace OL coach, doesn't think he can play for Michigan. Spanellis has excellent film and excellent size and mulitple SEC offers.  He is likely to move up in starz rankings as well.

Mr Miggle

January 22nd, 2016 at 12:44 PM ^

Should he stop doing them? He got negative press over Falcon too. How much of a hit did our recruiting take from that. If you put a premium on avoiding controversy and negative press, our team has the wrong coach.

I think the point is not choosing Spanellis over Swenson, but whether Swenson belongs on the team even if his spot remained open.