Former Central Michigan and Indy Colts HB Zurlon Tipton deceased

Submitted by MaizeJacket on

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2016/06/28/ex-colts-rb-z…

What a shame.  I hope this doesn't start a political discussion about gun safety, but it probably will.  This is just an unfortunate tragic accident above all else.  Someone earlier in another thread said deaths come in threes...  While Tipton certainly didn't have the impact Buddy Ryan or Pat Summitt did, he's still an athletic figure in a public light.

Louie C

June 29th, 2016 at 11:05 AM ^

This is a common sense issue plain and simple. Having a chambered gun in a bag; safety on or not is totally irresponsible. Sad he had to find out the hard way.

Craptain Crunch

June 29th, 2016 at 1:23 PM ^

Get your facts straight. An Assualt rifle is a FULLY AUTOMATIC weapon. Pull the trigger and the gun keeps shooting as you keep the trigger pressed. An AR-15 (AR does not stand for assault rifle but Aramlite, the company you originally made it) is a semi automatic gun like all pistols or revolvers. Pull the trigger once and one bullet flys out of the barrel. The trigger has to reset to fire again. That means you have depress the trigger. The reason so many people are ignorant of this is because they listen to the mass media and their lies about guns.

NRK

June 29th, 2016 at 1:49 PM ^

Replace "assault rifle" with "tactical rifle" or "AR-15" in the post. The message is still the same, less the semantic difference.

 

Yes, to be clear, an AR-15 is not an "assault rifle" under US military terminology.

 

Again, my opinion is these type of deflection tactics tend to obscure from discussion of the real issues.

NRK

June 29th, 2016 at 4:43 PM ^

Technically, you're right - it was made up by politicians, but not really in the way you're implying. The term "assault rifle" is the translation of the German name for the StG 44 (Sturmgewehr 44, literally "storm rifle" which was itself a rename MP43/MP44 (Machinepistol)). The development and use of that weapon are important in understanding the term and its later use (and misuse). From a history perspective there is such a term, and it was made up a politician... Adolf Hitler. Don't make me get out my "Weapons of World War II" book that the history nerd in me has read cover to cover.

The term "assault rifle" is commonly used to correctly refer to a subclass of weapons with a larger effective range than a submachine gun but shorter than regular rifles (battle rifles) that use a middle type of round and can be fired in full auto or semi auto. It is common parlance in weapon classifications. 

I DO agree that the term is incorrectly used by a lot of politicians to apply to weapons that are NOT assault rifles (e.g., AR-15) It's since been swithced to be "Assault Weapons" which is much more ambiguous.

I've found talking about the characeristics (e.g., selective fire, cartridge size, pistol grip, etc.), rather than a title, in discussions helpful.

160 IQ

June 29th, 2016 at 2:44 PM ^

Maybe because governments have killed over 100,000,000 unarmed civilians globally in the last 100 years. That's a good reason. I'd rather my neighbor have a rifle than a dictatorial government. Save lives bro.

pdgoblue25

June 29th, 2016 at 4:14 PM ^

A Mercedes does the exact same thing as a Ford Fiesta, so why do you want one?  2 handguns with 15 round mags have the exact same number of rounds as an AR-15.  At the Boston marathon they used a pressure cooker.  People who want to kill people will figure out a way to kill people.