Five Buckeyes' juniors mulling NFL jump
The undisclosed players are sending in their papers to the NFL for evaluation. I hope they all get evaluated by the same person that did Donovan Warren's report. I can't see TP going pro early, but you never know...
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December 15th, 2010 at 9:33 AM ^
At tight end. Of course if we judge him by how he handles himself in the media, I wouldn't rule out a career in diplomacy for TP.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:44 AM ^
Maybe he can become a public defender, I mean everyone murders people right?
December 15th, 2010 at 10:14 AM ^
One of them had to be the intelligent Terrelle Pryor and the other
four would be Dan Herron, DeVier Posey, Michael Brewster, and Nathan Williams.
I don't care who stays or leaves VICTORY is ours at the Big House next year
December 15th, 2010 at 9:46 AM ^
I can't see him as a TE...just because usually TE's know how to shut thier mouths. No he is more of a WR based on his comments.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:49 AM ^
Like Kellen Winslow and Jeremey Shockey
December 15th, 2010 at 9:50 AM ^
Geez obviously I was talking about good tight ends.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:12 AM ^
December 15th, 2010 at 6:15 PM ^
Yeah, I did. Nice catch.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:54 AM ^
Terrelle Pryor can dominate at any position. Just ask him.
December 15th, 2010 at 12:24 PM ^
He'll beat any team 9/10 times, as long as that 1 loss was the first game, and the other team kicked his ass.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:33 PM ^
but on any offense too, he is really the best football player ever to live. he just pretends he's not as good every week because he doesn't want to make others jealous of his amazing skills and capabilities.
(if you couldn't pick it up *SACRCASIM*)
I'd take Denard Robinson over TP (haha toilet paper) any day!!
Go Blue!!!
December 15th, 2010 at 9:35 AM ^
It'll be a shock if Pryor goes, but RB Bam Herron and one or two of their All-Big Ten junior offensive linemen might also go. WR Posey is also a decent possibility.
The more the merrier.
Pryor and the linemen would be the biggest losses; they probably can absorb the loss of Herron and/or Posey.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:41 AM ^
Wrong noun!
December 15th, 2010 at 9:58 AM ^
Adjectives/ Onomotopeias (or however the hell you spell that)
December 15th, 2010 at 10:56 AM ^
Also a noun, as in "lower the boom".
December 15th, 2010 at 10:47 AM ^
you're missing the real issue - why do osu running backs always have such stupid nicknames? Beanie? Boom? Next thing you know, they'll recruit a Bam-Bam and a Bruiser.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:54 AM ^
Do you really think Herron would go? I thought one of OSU's problems this season was that neither Herron nor Saine were distinguishing themselves as quality backs.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:35 AM ^
Maybe he's feeling snubbed by not winning a single meaningful award and wants to prove himself in the pros. Zing!
December 15th, 2010 at 9:38 AM ^
BOOM MGoRoasted!
December 15th, 2010 at 9:59 AM ^
He'll get drafted, and after three games say that if he was on a different team, he'd be dominating the nation.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:02 AM ^
You're anticipating some serious maturing from TP, aren't you?
December 15th, 2010 at 9:36 AM ^
One more chance to get destroyed by a winged helmet. I imagine a beefed up Roh coming from his blindside to apply a hurtin'! Priceless.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:52 AM ^
Make that two more chances.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:40 AM ^
that the suckeyes will make it to the championship game.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:37 AM ^
For how much I despise tOSU I wish them luck. I don't think TP goes pro this year because he has a ton to work on if he is going to play QB. But you never know what will happen when a player gets to the NFL. Just look at Couch from the Browns last decade and Brady, completely different outcomes.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:55 AM ^
I have been wondering about this, and I should probably go back and look at the Mathlete's data showing QB growth through their four years. Even with data though, I do not expect Pryor to have a much more productive year than he had this year. He has already participated in three spring training workouts, has started since he was a freshman, and is playing in an offense that doesn't rely on him to make a lot of plays. (as an aside, I think Tressel allowed Troy Smith to do a lot more in his offense than Pryor, which somewhat discounts the Tressel doesn't adjust to his players). I just think that Pryor has hit his ceiling as a college quarterback, and expect minimal gains in his game as a senior. If he returns, he will still get wins, but this is more similar to Boeckman or Krenzel getting wins than the Troy Smith lead wins. Just an opinion.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:47 AM ^
Tressel didn't open up the offense until Troy's senior year. Troy in 2005 was still making the transition from a scrambling QB to a true dual-threat QB, and Tressel didn't really have much faith in him until late in the season; Troy only threw 237 passes in 2005.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:25 PM ^
I don't follow OSU nearly as closely as you probably do, so I will go by what you say. I still stand by my assessment above though, as Troy Smith only played QB for 2 1/2 years, while Pryor has been at it for 3 going on 4. Or, as another way to put it, if I had to go up against one of the two, with every esle equal, I would easily pick Pryor. While Pryor has done ok against our defenses of late (who hasn't) Smith looked spectacular against our 2006 defense, which is no small feat. (although the 2005 loss was IMO largely lost due to the fact we went to a prevent defense against Smith with 5 minutes left when we had been stoning him all day)
December 15th, 2010 at 1:01 PM ^
Agree that it is very hard to predict who is going to become a great pro QB. The flops have always stood out - the past four big disappointments have been Leaf, Russell, Leinhart and Marinovich - all had a lot of pre-NFL hype, physically looked the part and came in and blew up. Of course, Peyton Manning came in with a lot of hype and had all of the physical features one would want and he did pay off for the Colts.
Everyone else however were not the ideal physical archtype QB. The only common aspect was that they all were hard workers off the field or had an overwhelming burning competitive fire. The kids who always had to prove themselves in high school and college maybe better prepared mentally - they have had to work harder and prove to the coaches that they deserved to start. They weren't just bigger and faster than the other kids. That may be part of the reason why Vince Young at Tennessee has had issues - he was always quicker, faster, and bigger than nearly all of his college opponents.
The college situation also may not have an incentive for the coaches to do much tinkering with a kid's mechanics if he is productive. Why break down a kid's throwing motion and take a whole year to sort that out if he is super productive (like Tim Tebow at Florida)? Why spend a lot of time teaching how to read a defense and make adjustments at the line if that isn't part of the college team's offense? That is probably the biggest concern a spread team has with attracting QB talent.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:38 AM ^
Herron seems pretty eager to go be a 4th RD pick.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:43 AM ^
if you aint 4th your last
December 15th, 2010 at 9:46 AM ^
I wouldn't read into this very much. I seem to remember last year almost all of their starting juniors filed the paperwork to be evaluated, but hardly any left (I'm at work and can't look up the exact number). Tressel encourages his players to test the water and see where they would be drafted.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:55 AM ^
Last year I thought Cameron Heyward, Chimdi Checkwa, Devon Torrence, Brandon Saine, and Brian Rolle were all leaving. Silly me.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:50 AM ^
He was a 1st/2ed rounder last year, this year not so much and I don't think he was doubled more, maybe one of the OSU guys can weigh in.
December 15th, 2010 at 3:09 PM ^
He is still going in the first round based on talent and size alone. But he did have a disapointing (for his standards) senior year. Much like Iowa's Clayborn, the secret was out, he faced double teams and offenses aggresively avoiding him/his side.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:17 PM ^
December 16th, 2010 at 2:45 AM ^
What is your point? I never said that Cam was better, in fact I said he had a disapointing year.
December 16th, 2010 at 7:52 AM ^
December 15th, 2010 at 10:09 PM ^
December 15th, 2010 at 10:28 AM ^
Despite coaching at tOSU and wearing sweatervests, Tressell has attacted highly-ranked players and seems to support their testing the water as juniors. Of course, it helps to have a pipeline filled with 4 and 5 star underclassment to replace them. I have to respect what Tressell has done during his tenure as HC, even though I want to beat him black and BLUE.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:44 PM ^
and only one of them left
December 15th, 2010 at 9:52 AM ^
After Jake Locker's flameout this year, there really is a dearth of NFL-caliber (at least size wise) QB's in this year's draft with a performance history. Newton will almost certainly be the first QB off the board, but after that then who? Stanzi? Christian Ponder? Mitch Mustain? Kellen Moore?
Pryor would almost certainly be in the conversation with Ryan Mallett for the 2nd QB in the draft, unless the Raiders are picking #1 and then you know that they'll take "throw thru a brick wall" Mallett with the top pick :). In all seriousness, Pryor has the size NFL teams are looking for w/ some wiggle, he's a three year starter at a top school with a winning backstory, has shown progression in his game (arm punts notwithstanding) and in his best games he's looked like a pro QB (last year's Rose Bowl). Tressel would go to the mat for the guy as well in terms of advocacy. He'll probably test out of the world at the combine in all the phsyical measurables, and if he can show a big arm, then he'll probably even overcome the concerns about his accuracy. If he did put his name in for evaulation, I'm guessing he's going to get a response back saying he'd rank as the 2nd or 3rd QB in the draft, and a likely late 1st rd pick.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:56 AM ^
Uhhh, you ever hear of Andrew Luck?
December 15th, 2010 at 10:00 AM ^
Luck's said he's staying...whether that stays true or not.. I dunnno
December 15th, 2010 at 10:42 AM ^
Pryor said he's staying too. Then again, he also said he only cares about the team.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:57 AM ^
and Ryan Mallett?
December 15th, 2010 at 9:59 AM ^
Pryor would almost certainly be in the conversation with Ryan Mallett for the 2nd QB in the draft
December 15th, 2010 at 9:57 AM ^
Luck will go before cam newton and I still wouldn't be surprised if locker goes in the first round. TP wouldn't go first round
December 16th, 2010 at 2:34 AM ^
December 15th, 2010 at 9:59 AM ^
Rittenberg says he would be surprised if Pryor left early. In most cases I would agree with him - I think that last year can have a big impact on a player's draft position. However Pryor has been a full time starter for three years and is not that much different now than when he started - the fourth year is not likely to change his status much. His leaving would hurt OSU but not necessarily him - wouldn't be surprised if he were gone.
A bigger factor is the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement and rookie pay scale. That may or may not encourage players to leave early.