September 27th, 2017 at 1:28 PM ^

If you come to Michigan, we will pay for your official visit.  We might go eat subs, it will be crazy.  You will get to play as many years as you want, and there is no chance we will get investigated or be banned from the NCAA tourney like those other teams that risk that every year.  If you got paid by Jordan/Nike to sign with us, we had nothing to do with it, please make sure to sweep the room for bugs or surveillance.

Mr. Yost

September 27th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^

  1. We sure we want guys who went to schools recruited by these coaches?
  2. We sure we want guys who were specifically recruited by these assistant coaches?

I'd think, we'd take a hard pass on this one. Even Brian Bowen.


September 27th, 2017 at 12:31 PM ^

What's horrifying about this to me is that a lot of the money seems to be skipping the kids and going to guys who are already well paid. Are we looking at a system that cuts the kids out of the loop (except for some free slush fund cash that doesn't help quality of life) but still controls where they go?

I don't know. But the schools that are involved aren't pulling in top five classes. If it's this corrupt for Auburn, a middling program in a conference that is lukewarm about basketball, what's going on in Kentucky and the Triangle?


September 27th, 2017 at 1:40 PM ^

Agree it's the adults who deserve most of the blame, but still don't want any kids that accepted the cash anywhere near UM.  First, they're going to lose their eligibility/amateur status if they accepted serious $.  Second, I can't imagine bringing in 4* and 5* guys who may or may not have accepted cash and giving them playing time over the guys we've already landed. I've always said I never wanted UM to run a Calipari or Pitino style, 1-and-done type program, and the possibility of grabbing (possibly tainted) talent off a sinking ship doesnt change that.  Not to be all high and mighty, but the class is full (maybe room for 1 more based on attrition) so why should we open our arms to guys who weren't interested in UM before their school of choice got caught cheating, when its possible (probable?) they were given improper benefits themselves?

Mr. Yost

September 27th, 2017 at 12:51 PM ^

No. We shouldn't blame them at all. But that doesn't mean they have to play basketball at Michigan either.

I'm not trying to be all righteous...I'm usually all about getting the kid who's trying to transfer.

I don't blame the kid...I just don't want the risk of him playing, vacating wins, being ineligible, the bad press, rehashing the 90's, etc.

I don't think that's unreasonable. It's not worth the risk at Michigan. Michigan doesn't have to be 2nd Chance U.

If this was - I'd be ALL OVER these kids. For a school like that, it's worth it.

Mr. Yost

September 27th, 2017 at 12:53 PM ^

I didn't say they were.

But do I want the chance of the NCAA looking into their matters further, thus shedding a bad light on our program? No. 

Do I want a kid getting suspended for something he did at Auburn while he's now at Michigan? No.

Do I want to run the risk of playing an ineligble player if something else shows up - like say he lies to the NCAA? No.

Not to mention you still have to worry about his family who've accepted money, gifts, and THEY have all shown poor judgement...who is to say they wouldn't do it again the next time someone waived money in their face (agent, shoe company, marketing group, etc.)?

Just not worth it, IMO.

True Blue Grit

September 27th, 2017 at 1:58 PM ^

Michigan doesn't want tainted goods here.  I have a strong feeling Beilein has lost a few players in the recent past to this sleazy, corrupted system.  I'm sure he wouldn't have anything to do with any of these shady third party hangers-on.  So, the players and their families moved on.  


September 27th, 2017 at 12:22 PM ^

Someone needs to explain to me what is really morally wrong with paying players.

Did they break the rules? Yeah they did. Did they do some morally disgusting thing that willl send them to hell like everyone’s making it out to be? No.


September 27th, 2017 at 12:41 PM ^

I doubt very seriously that Michigan will try to recruit kids who very well may have taken money under the table to commit to another school.

While I understand that some of these kids come from rougher backgrounds and the temptation to get paid is enormous, they know what's right and wrong. While the adults surrounding them who were involved have greater culpability, that does not exonerate them from all guilt if, indeed, wrongdoing has taken place during their committments.

They are old enough to accept personal responsibility for their involvement, if any. (A concept, I know, often lacking these days)

They are kids and any involvement in this should be punished, but judiciously. Perhaps allowing them to stay in school but lose a year of athletic eligibility might be something to consider. The adults involved should get the lifetime bans.