joeyb

October 14th, 2012 at 9:16 PM ^

We got demolished by the #1 team, had 6 turnovers against the #5 team, barely beat #94, and demolished #66, #84, and #120. What type of evidence is there to place us higher than #35? If we win the next two weeks against #34 and #36 (according to the computers) - especially if they are by decent margins - we will move up significantly. Don't worry about it.

mgobluebraelow

October 14th, 2012 at 9:47 PM ^

We had a few very solid drives. One turnover was a pass from a 5'6 RB to an equally tiny WR. Another turnover was a fumble on an otherwise good play. I'm not discounting the turnovers — obviously they happened — however I do believe that they were not necessarily indicative of the ND defense containing our offense. I felt they were mostly our own fault. Partly game planning, partly execution. However, despite these turnovers, the game was very winnable down to that final Notre Dame drive. Sure, this was mostly a result of our defense shutting down their offense, but it was also party a result of us having the ball for so damn long and moving down the field with convincing consistency.

BlowGoo

October 14th, 2012 at 10:25 PM ^

And to add insult to injury, our turnovers came in the red zone after long drives that ate a lot of clock up. Again, a loss is a loss and we deserved that L. But that one definitely had a "we beat ourselves" feel to it.

But I never seriously thought we were in the NC hunt anyway, but that winning the BIG was the PERFECT goal at this stage: realistic, but challenging, and an appropriate step of season to season improvement for Hoke & company.

I feel your pain, bro. But, like the B.S. @ the Small House (ND), let's just let the BCS rankings go...

... And enjoy the B1G championship ride!

gbdub

October 14th, 2012 at 10:49 PM ^

I guess the point is, did Notre Dame appear to be a vastly superior team? To that I'd say no. If we played that game ten times, M probably wins 5 or 6. As opposed to Alabama, where we'd almost certainly lose all 10. A win is a win and a loss is a loss, but they do come in different flavors. Bama was a beat down. ND was us shooting ourselves in the foot.

mgobluebraelow

October 14th, 2012 at 11:26 PM ^

The thing is, I'm not convinced that we have serious problems.  We're by no means elite and passing is an issue, but our offense moved the ball consistantly at times against Notre Dame.  I understand your quote but I don't think its applicable.  There was no guarantee we'd keep turning the ball over and they by no means had a comfortable enough lead to see if we would.  Do you really think Notre Dame would take that chance against us after the past few years?

LSAClassOf2000

October 14th, 2012 at 9:15 PM ^

Of the 44 teams whose BCS average is a non-zero number, nine of them are Big XII teams. Only Kansas was left out (which, at 1-5...well...anyway...). The Pac-12 and SEC have seven teams each. The Big Ten rings in with five teams and the ACC with four. The remaining 13 teams are spread between independents (ND, who else?), the Big East, MWC, MAC, Sun Belt, WAC and C-USA. 

turtleboy

October 14th, 2012 at 8:53 PM ^

By their own standards Michigan has a better resume than Texas or Iowa State. Lost on the road to better opponents than either of them. This is just dumb.

cmd600

October 14th, 2012 at 10:17 PM ^

And they beat better opponents than us.

A big problem for Michigan in the computer polls is that UMass is dead last, and dragging down their strength of schedule. the Colley Rankings have a tool to add/remove games. Replace UMass with Bowling Green (still a blowout, but ranked #72 there instead of Umass' #138) and Michigan moves up to #27 from #38. This is the same exact problem that the basketball team had last year.

Njia

October 14th, 2012 at 8:55 PM ^

If we win the B1G, we go to the Rose Bowl, no matter what the BCS poll says. 

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Gary_B

October 15th, 2012 at 11:49 AM ^

They are 4-2 just like us. They beat Wyoming (107), New Mexico (67), Ole Miss (55), and Okie State (34). They lost a close one to the #8 team and got curb stomped by an untested #13 Oklahoma (yes, I said it, wins over UTEP and Florida A&M while losing to K State means nothing). Yet Texas is #25 in the BCS with almost half as many coaches votes.

I'd call it Notre Dame with a point.