The Fan in Fargo

April 19th, 2018 at 6:00 PM ^

I agree. He won't be as good a defender as X in year one but he has mad offensive game it looks like. Basically can do it all. X needs to pick up his shooting in the off-season after losing those three big contributors. Dejulius wont have to carry a load or probably be able to next year but when year two rolls around, watch out. The only knock against him that I can see is that he needs a quicker first and second step. If he gets that, it's fucking over for everyone. I'm not so sure this team will be super next year after losing all or most of their offense but the following year will be fun.


April 19th, 2018 at 1:22 PM ^

That should make the 247 composite final as well with ESPN and Rivals recently releasing their final 2018 lists.

#64 Brandon Johns

#73 Ignas Brazdeikis

#99 David Dejulius

#120 Colin Castleton

#216 Adrien Nunez

MI Expat NY

April 19th, 2018 at 1:36 PM ^

I really wonder how they determined Iggy's composite ranking.  They don't seem to be ignoring ESPN and rivals entirely (doubt being ranked 39 on one site and essentially unranked on the two others results in him being #73 composite), but at the same time they can't be using his actual individual assessments from those sites, because then he would certainly be our top ranked recruit.  


MI Expat NY

April 19th, 2018 at 2:21 PM ^

Interesting.  It didn't occur to me that "rankings" and "ratings" were different, thought they were just accounting for different sites' terminology.  But I guess that makes sense, otherwise one ESPN "90" is the same as any other ESPN "90", even though ESPN actually ranks those individuals.  

That still strikes me as a flaw in their composite rankings that 247 could easily rectify, even if they do so in a conservative fashion.  


April 19th, 2018 at 1:32 PM ^

Castleon will be a huge contributor in his career. If he doesn’t RS then I expect Moe freshman like minites, but after some Camp Sanderson, look out.

Iggy has potential to be a real versatile offensive option off the bench right away.

Johns can have an impact similar to Livers as a freshman next year.

Nunez has an open door backing up Poole now with Ibi’s exit.

DeJulius is a wild card. He could be the backup PG who can keep the pace going and providing scoring off the bench that we haven’t had since Spike’s sophomore and junior years. I wouldn’t write off Brooks just yet. DeJulius will have to impress in camp and in his early season action to prove he deserves the backup spot


April 19th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^

I think Johns is being criminally underrated. We all complain about Castleton's rankings, but he's still a project to an extent, so it makes some sense to not rate him highly. But Johns has all the measurables and improved at the exact things (motor, aggression, rebounding, defense)  that the analysts wanted him to improve on before last AAU season. I think he has the chance to be the best player from the class next year and beyond. 

He's only 63rd in composite. I'd have him top 50 at least. Iggy's composite is skewed because of Rivals. He's be top 40 easily with them accounted for. 


April 19th, 2018 at 6:43 PM ^

Johns plays too stiff/upright. I would personally rate him with castleton tied for third in our class. Should be a very solid player for us in his career but no way in hell hes underrated where he’s at. DDJ, on the other hand is getting the Trey Burke treatment. A guy outside the top 100 who obviously should be in the top 50. Gonna be a stud point guard for us and he’s leaving early.

Leaders And Best

April 19th, 2018 at 3:26 PM ^

Wagner was a 4-star #119 nationally in 247 Composite. 247Sports had him much higher though at #46 nationally.

I always wonder if some of these sites alter their rankings after the fact years later like Chad Ford at ESPN with the NBA Draft.


April 19th, 2018 at 2:14 PM ^

For all the past complaints about Beilein recruiting, I love reading this comments with everyone throwing out which top-100 recruit is going to be the best or which is the most under-rated.  

This is the most complete, deepest, most talented class Beilein has ever had.  He recruited an entire starting 5 that would rival any past recruiting class at Michigan other that the two from the early 90s.  And that's not even factoring in that Beilein is excellent at developing talent - especially those prospects in that 50-150 range of ratings.  

  1. DeJulius - Late surge as a senior could only improve his ranking so much for a 6'1" guard.  Good news is that we don't need him to run the team right away with Z and Brooks around.  
  2. Nunez - Older player with limited athleticism but his best skill fits with exactly what Beilein wants - shooting.  Ranking doesn't matter as much, though it should be remembered if he doesn't play a lot early in his career.
  3. Iggy - One of the best pure scorers we've ever recruited.  His age, size, and position mean that he should be ready to contribute immediately.
  4. Johns - The highest rated recruit to some sites but overlooked by many fans.  
  5. Castleton - Maybe the highest ceiling of anyone on the list.

Side note - here's an interesting history of MIchigan's top recruits since 2000 from 247.  Does humble you to think about the few misses in Beilein's past (Smotrycz, Chatman, Brundidge, etc.)



April 19th, 2018 at 2:14 PM ^

Like the way this team is put together. There don’t seem to be any positions on the floor that don’t have 1 or two or maybe even 3 good options, plenty of depth. No real superstars and certainly players with weaknesses in their games, but I like the composition of the roster.


April 19th, 2018 at 9:12 PM ^

I agree that the addition of these players (even with losing Moe and MAAR) combined with Ibi Watson transferring (not to be mean) makes a very nice roster for the couple years. Please let’s get two more seasons from Poole!

The worst or least upside player seems to be Austin Davis and I think he will end up a better player than Donnal was. I think this sites projected ceiling of “Jordan Morgan but taller” sounds right but I also think he’ll have better offensive game and actually have a jump shot. Plus he’ll likely be a backup, not a “hard working, hustlin, scrappy, upperclassman big man” type. He’ll be backing up studs and playing valuable minutes. I think he’ll learn to emulate Teske’s productive big man play.


April 19th, 2018 at 2:25 PM ^

Iggy is probably a top 25 or better player, Castleston and Johns top 50, DeJulius top 100 and Nunez top 150 or better.  And I wouldn't be surprised if 2-3 of these players end up in the NBA so I'm probably still not putting them high enough.

Matte Kudasai

April 19th, 2018 at 4:44 PM ^

I like these rankings better

Johns - 4* = 97.45

Iggy - 4* = 97.04

DeJulius - 4* = 95.90

Castleton - 4* = 93.82

Nunez = 3* = 88.86

13th in country

2nd in BIG to MD


April 19th, 2018 at 5:03 PM ^

the future is bright!!! with JB leading the way...his ability to develop players into NBA caliber players AND the DEFENSE!! does feel like we are reloading and reloading WELL!