FEI / S&P+ For Big 10 and Selected Others - Week 10

Submitted by alum96 on

I apologize in advance as this thread does not speculate on Peppers' probability to be AD next year.

I tend to lean to FEI over S&P+, as I think the FEI strength of schedule adjustments in particular are more pertinent but I like both over the basic NCAA stats which adjust for nothing.  FEI also just seems to work with the eye test more often than not the past few years I have followed these stats.

That said, I find both superior to NCAA stats which judge total offense and total defense on nothing more than yards gained or given up and don't adjust for SOS in any way.

NCAA Stats for comparison:

  • Total Offense: 87 (up from 98, thank you Scarlet Knights) - 372.9 yds/game
  • Total Defense:  2 (steady with last week) - 240.0 yds/game

Notes

  • UM FEI defense fell off a few spots to #5 from #2 while the offense jumped from #58 to #41. 
  • UM's main weakness on defense on FEI is # of drives given up of 10+ plays which is just over 10% - about 30th in the country.  Clemson is at 3% (damn) and Alabama 7% for comparison.
  • UM FEI "special teams efficiency" fell from #1 to #5 (damn you Grant), and "field position advantage" fell from #19 to #30.   I do think all the fair catches might have dinged us on the latter this week.
  • The 2 teams most similar to UM in advanced stats are Florida and (drumroll) Utah.  Both with 1 losses as we should be.  Hat tip to McElwain who looks like a great hire as well.
  dFEI dS&P+   oFEI oS&P+
UM 5 1   41 43
OSU 12 9   28 17
MSU 42 45   13 28
NWestern 9 6   88 107
PSU 13 16   77 62
Minnesota 26 26   93 89
Maryland 71 40   84 96
Indiana 99 110   29 21
Rutgers 114 117   67 88
           
Nebraska 83 69   22 36
Wisconsin 14 7   64 76
Iowa 24 13   37 44
Purdue 95 77   79 102
Illinois 43 10   66 94
           
Utah 10 19   47 42
BYU 53 44   32 32
Oregon St 84 100   109 109
UNLV 108 98   87 100
           
ND 30 38   4 6
Bama 1 2   30 35
Clemson 6 4   18 7
OK Staee 18 42   39 16
Stanford 51 41   5 14
LSU 28 33   9 12
TCU 75 70   10 3
Baylor 59 79   3 1
Oklahoma 2 20   17 11
Arizona 103 114   21 33
Oregon 90 96   20 18
Florida 11 5   48 46

 

If you are curious how UM graded last year (sorry to bring back the ennui) its was 70s to 90s on offense and 30s to 40s on defense, depending which measure you used.

alum96

November 10th, 2015 at 9:28 AM ^

Definitions:

The Fremeau Efficiency Index (FEI) considers each of the nearly 20,000 possessions every season in major college football. All drives are filtered to eliminate first-half clock-kills and end-of-game garbage drives and scores. A scoring rate analysis of the remaining possessions then determines the baseline possession efficiency expectations against which each team is measured. A team is rewarded for playing well against good teams, win or lose, and is punished more severely for playing poorly against bad teams than it is rewarded for playing well against bad teams.

The S&P+ Ratings are a college football ratings system derived from both play-by-play and drive data from all 800+ of a season's FBS college football games (and 140,000+ plays).

The components for S&P+ reflect the components of four of what Bill Connelly has deemed the Five Factors of college football: efficiency), explosiveness, field position, and finishing drives. (A fifth factor, turnovers, is informed marginally by sack rates, the only quality-based statistic that has a consistent relationship with turnover margins.)

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fplus

BlueKoj

November 10th, 2015 at 12:02 PM ^

Great stuff. I'd like to see Special Teams defined, and given equal time to O & D, and more time than NCAA stats. That phase of the game is equally important, and has been a marked advantage in most games. It will need to be that way over the next three games as well, if UM is going to play Iowa in December. Thanks.

alum96

November 10th, 2015 at 9:49 AM ^

Whittingham was my non harbaugh choice (if you couldn't go get a Patterson type - which seemed the case)  I didn't feel we had enough data on McElwain as he had a short tenure at Colo State.  But their AD - which received a lot of hell for the choice - must be loving it.

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/cc-evaluating-kyle-whittingham-plan-b-option

My only hesitency is the Brady Hoke first year of success at UM rule.  Let's see what he does in years 2 and 3.  That said considering he lost his QB and they wallopped GA and Ole Miss and lost a close one on the road to LSU with a backup QB I don't think its a Hoke parallel.

Very good chance to go 10-2 this year with 2 easy games before hosting FSU.  11-1 could be probable.  You do need some good fortune as well - barely got by Vandy and TN.

LSAClassOf2000

November 10th, 2015 at 10:26 AM ^

I think what would usually scare Florida fans more, however, at least with regard to Muschamp, is the prospect of another game where you would get a field goal on the opening drive and then watch Will try to run the clock for the next 55 minutes of regulation play because they might never be that close again.  

1464

November 10th, 2015 at 9:53 AM ^

Both with 1 losses as we should be.

Let's not get too bold here.  We have 2 losses.  We should have 2 losses.  Just to different teams.

BlueKoj

November 10th, 2015 at 11:59 AM ^

The 2nd loss had everything to do with not catching a snap, not falling on the ball, not running around instead of trying to punt, having officials not making a call, and not having the universe turn all of that into the 0.00001% outcome that happened. The 6th win had everything to do with UM and MN trading plays, mistakes and luck until a goal line stand was dominated by UM D. Those two games are not close as tradeoffs.

Ziff72

November 10th, 2015 at 10:01 AM ^

Oklahoma has the lowest combined Off and Def rating.  They have been off the radar since they laid an egg against Texas but based on the stats they may be the team to back in the Big 12 coming down the stretch.   

alum96

November 10th, 2015 at 10:31 AM ^

I think Clemson is #1 combined but OK is #2.

Yes if they did not have that loss I could see them ahead of Clemson in the rankings or at least @ #2.  They look like OSU mid year last year but have that wacky rivalry loss - they've been destroying teams.  And any B12 team with a top 20 D makes you go huh.

With games vs Baylor, TCU, Ok State ahead and their blue blood status I think they'd be the one 1 loss B12 team with a real chance to get in.  Baylor SOS is so horrid 1 loss and they are out IMO.  At least OK played TN.  But 2 of those 3 remaining games are on the road for Oklahoma so very tough task - if they win out I think you have to put them in playoffs.

Also what they did to KSU was interesting in a transative way - OK State beat KSU by 2, TCU beat them by 7, Baylor by 7.  Oklahoma beat them by 55.

Ok- Baylor is the big game of the week.

skurnie

November 10th, 2015 at 10:44 AM ^

Baylor's schedule has been soft but the next four games are:

vs  Oklahoma

@ Oklahoma St

@ TCU

vs Texas

They didn't do themselves any favors with SMU, Lamar and Rice to open the season. The Big 12 might be about to bludgeon themselves to death right here and no one will get into the playoff. 

HarbaughToKolesar85

November 10th, 2015 at 11:03 AM ^

What caught my attention is that IU's statistical profile on offense is very similar to OSU and PSU's defensive profile is very close to OSU. We should actually learn a lot over the next two weeks about what The Game will look like.