FBI busts Massive exam ring

Submitted by WGoNerd on March 12th, 2019 at 10:54 AM

This story is insane and apparently involves everyone from college coaches to Aunt Becky.

The plot involved students who attended or were seeking to attend Georgetown University, Stanford University, UCLA, the University of San Diego, USC, University of Texas, Wake Forest, and Yale, according to federal prosecutors.

Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/feds-uncover-massive-college-entrance-exam-cheating-plot-n982136

Press conference about the story scheduled for 11:30am EST.

Cam

March 12th, 2019 at 7:49 PM ^

This is incorrect.  Harvard Law Review editors are selected on the basis of GPA and writing competition results. This was the case in 1990 as well.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1990/2/6/obama-named-new-law-review-president/

"Currently, there are 80 editors of the review, all of whom were selected on the basis of grades and the results of a writing contest."

RGard

March 12th, 2019 at 10:37 PM ^

I see no difference between an under qualified applicant who gets in via bribes or fake test scores vs. an under qualified applicant who gets in because a parent was the US President.  Some qualified applicant lost a spot.

Mr Miggle

March 13th, 2019 at 1:18 PM ^

Do you also see no difference with football players who are under qualified?

They have more in common with presidents' children than you might think. They have strong extra-curricular qualifications few applicants can match. That's an important component of applications at highly selective schools, which is why coaches were bribed even in minor non-revenue sports..

Schools hope to profit off their attendance and garner PR. Of course, football players can be fully qualified on academics alone as can can presidential children.

ak47

March 12th, 2019 at 6:00 PM ^

Because the two most recent democratic presidents are a guy who didn't have rich parents to buy him into a school and a rhodes scholar? It wasn't a comment on their politics and it wouldn't be a realistic critique of the two most recent democrats.

L'Carpetron Do…

March 12th, 2019 at 6:01 PM ^

Hmmm..maybe because they were under-achieving but had rich, powerful fathers who leveraged their connections to get them into elite schools they had no business going to? I think you missed the point. He's not biased, he's speaking the truth.

This doesn't apply to all GOPers (Romney is brilliant and high-achieving in his own right and McCain, while connected from birth, still worked hard and served his country with honor and distinction). What Dems would this apply to though? You're implying that some on the Democratic side have benefitted from such a rigged system, right?  But who exactly?

L'Carpetron Do…

March 13th, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^

YEs - Gore was a rich kid of privilege born into a political family but I also thought of him as somewhat intelligent, if not boring. He certainly had opportunities others didn't because of his connections but I don't think he was out of his depth the way Bush/Trump were. Gore was more in the Romney mold - born with connections but pretty smart and accomplished on his own.Gore was basically a technocrat - an intelligent dullard. 

Cam

March 12th, 2019 at 7:51 PM ^

Sucked?  Obama has always maintained that he received a 3.7 from Columbia.  That's hardly sucking.  

Lawrence Tribe said Obama was the most impressive first-year student he ever had, so it's pretty safe to say he was admitted on merit. 

xtramelanin

March 13th, 2019 at 4:55 AM ^

curious why he never released his records, his admissions, all that jazz.  we saw gore's, W's, a few others, but not obama's.  unless i missed it, all discussions about obama's grades would be just guessing. 

Mr Miggle

March 12th, 2019 at 2:30 PM ^

$6 million was a big overpay compared to the other numbers. Might have been from someone that schools wouldn't take money from. That's probably a small group, but sometimes there's bad PR that comes with donations.

I wonder if some of the other parents chose to cheat, not to save money, but hoping people would think their kids got in on their own merits. Possibly including the kids.

Hold This L

March 12th, 2019 at 2:55 PM ^

I had a class in high school with a former Michigan player, won’t say who. The kid was dumb as f**king rocks. He had a D in Spanish 2 as a junior, I was a sophomore barely trying with an A-. He got a full ride to Michigan. I know full well that he had a C or D in every basic class he was in. Nice kid but just so stupid. He was a 3 star just FYI, not even like he was a top 10-20 player is my point. 

Vote_Crisler_1937

March 12th, 2019 at 3:13 PM ^

I went to Northwestern with more than a few kids like that. Only 2 didn’t make it academically through NU similar to Tate Forcier. It happens everywhere. I was always surprised when female athletes had those kinds of grades because my bias back then was that female athletes at NU were all smart. 

Kilgore Trout

March 12th, 2019 at 2:47 PM ^

I have done some HAIL interviews for the College of Engineering. One student from a local highly rated high school gave me a ton of detail about how much cheating there is. It's pretty gross, but a good warning to make sure I'm giving my kids the right priorities. If getting into Michigan (or whatever high end college) now means cheating in high school and / or taking a silly amount of classes outside of the normal high school curriculum, I would take a pass. 

theytookourjobs

March 12th, 2019 at 11:12 AM ^

The quote "pigs get fat, but hogs get slaughtered" is going to come true with college sports.  Within the next 5 years, the NCAA will be gone.  Once the kids start getting paid legally and it's basically a 2nd Tier pro sports organization, the whole thing is going to go down the tubes.  People like me who once lived and breathed this stuff are becoming apathetic to the whole thing because of the rampant corruption and cheating.