BursleyBaitsBus

March 15th, 2017 at 10:59 PM ^

Gender Dysphoria as of the latest evaluations in psychiatry is classified as a mental disorder, hence its position in the latest DSM. 

Until it is removed like being gay was removed, it is considered a mental disorder. 

Having a mental problem does not make you subhuman like some ardent defenders of LGBTQ community would have people believe. 
 
Help can come in many forms whether it is surgery in case of some trans people or merely placating the need to be called certain pronouns or therapy by a professional. 
 

ST3

March 16th, 2017 at 12:36 AM ^

The American Psychiatric Association, publisher of the DSM-5, states that "gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition."

Your statement seems to lump all of those experiencing gender noncomformity as being afflicted with gender dysphoria, and so in need of mental help for their mental disorder. That may not necessarily be the case. That may be why some appear to be reacting strongly to some of these comments. No one wants their friends or relatives to be called mentally ill, or mentally disordered when they are not.

As others have pointed out in this thread, there are situations where people have something other than XX or XY chromosomes*. The folks on here saying have XX and XY divisions and claiming scientific superiority come off looking like the believers in Newtonian Mechanics after the discovery of Quantum Mechanics. Things aren't always so simple as they appear.

I have a relative who transitioned last year. I was very surprised to find out how much I didn't know about the issue. The statistics regarding attempted suicides among this community are horrific. It's also sad that the significant distress associated with gender dysphoria is often a result of ignorance of the issue. In other words, the distress is caused by society's gender norms and inability to accept individual's choices that are different. I don't care if a young boy decides they prefer to wear pink, have long hair or play with Barbies. They shouldn't care either. But when society tells them they are wrong for doing these things, it shouldn't be a surprise that they feel significant distress.

*http://anthro.palomar.edu/abnormal/abnormal_5.htm

BursleyBaitsBus

March 16th, 2017 at 12:53 AM ^

Having a mental illness is not a negative. 

The fact that people are so offput by the mere suggestion of it suggests a greater societal issue that engulfs more than just Gender Dysphoria. 

A shit ton of people have mental issues in the world and they should be treated like people having high cholesterol rather than some deep dark secret. 

If anyone thinks my comments are somehow degrading the humanity of someone with dysphoria, then they're sorely mistaken and guided by a jaded view on mental illnesses that they should read up on.  

And again, wasn't trying to lump, hence my last sentence regarding "types of help" one could get. 

Yo_Blue

March 16th, 2017 at 8:41 AM ^

I'm not sure how having a mental illness is NOT a negative.  Everyone has challenges of some sort.  Just by the nature of having to overcome these challenges is something of a negative.  Maybe I'm just misunderstanding your argument (wouldn't be the first time I misunderstood something!)  :)

Fenrir the Righteous

March 16th, 2017 at 8:51 AM ^

This is where a typewritten conversation is disadvantageous because it's hard to get at nuances of meaning if you don't realize how something will be perceived in advance. To recap, not all trans people experience dysphoria. Those that do should have access to healthcare, which itself is not well sorted for mental illnesses in the public at large.

PopeLando

March 16th, 2017 at 12:37 AM ^

Imagine you're inherently unhappy with something that takes massive effort to change...Like your body and what it's trying to be. Imagine you find the courage to tell your parents...and they don't understand, or get mad, or reject you. Imagine that you manage to take steps to correct the things you feel you need to correct...and everyone judges you for it. And imagine that there are political debates and internet forums which center on how human you are, whether your happiness is something we should accommodate as a society, and whether you should have basic American human rights. I don't think I'm strong enough to make it through all that.

BayWolves

March 15th, 2017 at 11:12 PM ^

Correct. Your DNA does not changed based on feelings. It is a psychological disorder to feel you are something other than your DNA and anatomy. You he sjw class is trying to say that DNA isn't real but emotional misfires are. Crazy.



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AlwaysBlue

March 15th, 2017 at 8:57 PM ^

they referred to two or more people?  

"It wasn't until they enrolled at Michigan and visited the Spectrum Center, the university's LGBTQ services office, that they found the language to describe the tension they had been feeling."

Wolverine Devotee

March 15th, 2017 at 9:00 PM ^

All I know is she is one damn good swimmer. Racked up a bunch of individual titles at B1Gs the last two years. Just became All-American on relay tonight. Go Blue!

BursleyBaitsBus

March 15th, 2017 at 11:24 PM ^

Eh careful there buddy. 

The right isn't any better (if anything worse) when it comes to believing scientific data. (Looks at the new EPA head's views on climate science and Sessions' statement regarding weed and shakes head) 

 

MGoBrewMom

March 15th, 2017 at 10:30 PM ^

Never saw so many exposed as ignorant as in this thread. Thinking there are a lot of people who think they know a lot of things, and don't. Maybe best to stfu if you don't know anything about the subject.

Lakeyale13

March 15th, 2017 at 10:56 PM ^

MGoBrewMom, Im sure you are a nice woman.  Truly mean that.  I would ask that you not tell people to STFU just because they have a different opinion or perspective from you.  Enter into a respectful dialogue.  I love nothing more than hearing and listening to people who have a completely different worldview than me.  I have learned a lot.  I have even switched positions because of it.  But no one listens to anyones thoughts, no matter how true they might be, once you tell someone to STFU.  All I hear after that is the voice of Charlie Brown's teacher.

BayWolves

March 15th, 2017 at 11:08 PM ^

Cultural marxists cannot accept opinions that differ from their own. They feel they must be purged from popular thought, like the stalinists and leninists who think the "reeducation" of the common people who dare to stand for traditional values are a threat politically correct orthodoxy. The tyranny of thought control and speech restrictions is the foundation of all that mgobrewmommers love. Hence watch what happens to this blog now. Locked in favor of regressive progressives in 3 ...2...1



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freelion

March 15th, 2017 at 9:05 PM ^

There were only binary values in my day. Now we have all kinds of combinations and permutations. It's mind boggling

Kewaga.

March 15th, 2017 at 9:39 PM ^

 

sure I understood everything I read.  BUT, I much appreciate Michigan for their acceptance towards individuals that might not currently fit into an easy mold.

 

MICHIGAN was the very 1ST IN THE NATION to have a gay student office.

 

Leaders and Best.

Ali G Bomaye

March 16th, 2017 at 9:43 AM ^

The significance is that in a lot of situations, gay students face issues that other students don't face, and those issues often aren't addressed by a general student office.

Hopefully at some time in the future we'll get to the point where we don't need a specific gay student office, but we're not there yet.