Bigfoot

June 2nd, 2015 at 6:16 AM ^

He has a 32 wonderlic. While it isn't a 38 MCAT, it's better than a 4 wonderlic. In the unlikely event that you take the thing, dont let the heat of his 32 creep in that dome of yours mid-test. That would be quite embarrassing to score lower than him.

Bigfoot

June 2nd, 2015 at 2:10 AM ^

Looking back at junior hockey, 90% of the team could have been charged with felonies. The whole incognito thing was bizarre. I still feel that he honestly felt Jmart was his friend and that the texts/pranks were well intentioned. I know it sounds bizarre, but if you've experienced that kind of atmosphere it's easier to understand.
Incognito > Ray Lewis
Incognito > Michael Vick
Incognito > Ray Rice
Incognito > Adrian Peterson
Incognito > etc...

The league is full of criminals and dirtbags that haven't received near the amount of scrutiny despite perpetrating far worse crimes. It's too bad he hurt jonathon martins feelings, however it might be time for everyone to get over it.

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wolpherine2000

June 2nd, 2015 at 2:33 AM ^

Incognito was a classless a-hole who put himself before his team long before he ever got to the NFL or "pranked" Martin. If anything, the guy needs to get over himself - his NFL career won't last forever and I don't see him owning a bunch of car dealerships or selling isotoner gloves to keep his legal bills paid.

wolpherine2000

June 2nd, 2015 at 11:05 AM ^

You seem to misunderstand my comment.  This has nothing to do with me - it's about him.  His dumbshit behavior and anger issues have gotten him kicked off two college teams, lost games for his teammates, and been a distraction for his franchise.  He needs to grow up so his life doesn't spiral into post-NFL ruin, but as long as he isn't in my life and he doesn't manage to hurt anyone I don't really care if he does.  He has had enough second chances that I'm not rooting for him anymore, I just want him to go away.

WestQuad

June 2nd, 2015 at 10:27 AM ^

Cognitio is a racist homophobic rape culture encouraging jerk and deserved what he got.  That said, it seems like he wanted Martin to stand up for himself and show some fire.  Rightly or wrongly, football players live for that fire/intensity and when someone doesn't show it they will bully them.  Martin shouldn't have had to deal with that.

BornSinner

June 2nd, 2015 at 4:20 AM ^

Wait you're saying Incognito got treated worse than Ray Rice? Rice got blackballed from the league and was made the face of NFL's stupid domestic violence PR nightmare that Goodell botched even when Rice and his wife both wanted to get over the ordeal... 

Michael Vick? The guy that parts of America still despise to this day even though he paid his dues and then some? You'd think he killed people. 

Incognito didn't get nearly as much scrutiny as those 2 and last time I checked he got a job again next season. Was the coverage overblown? Yeah, but what isn't these days. 

Bigfoot

June 2nd, 2015 at 5:29 AM ^

I'm putting things in perspective-- the fact that he has had similar press compared with any of the above is a joke. Yes, he was on the front page of every news outlet, and here is why:

Parents are super protective of their kids and feel vulnerable when they see this happen in a locker room. They don't take into account that their kid isn't in the NFL, or that their kid isn't 24 years old, or that their kid probably says and does way dirtier shit than they'd like to imagine.   They see this "bullying" on the news and assume it's everywhere, and that their kid is a possible victim. Their protective instincts kick in and they may or may not turn into zealots.  I understand, no one wants their kid messed with.  

 

Let me go 500 names down the list

 

Incognito > Lewan

Incognito > Hyde

Incognito > Cromartie

 

And the report on him was total railroad BS... the NFL tends to do that when they have publicity issues (see: Brady)

vablue

June 2nd, 2015 at 6:40 AM ^

Actually, Richie hasn't played again in the league yet. He was signed but we will see if it sticks. So he was blackballed from the league for as long as Rice. The difference being Richie is still npretty good, but Rice is considered a fading star. Rice isn't getting a second chance as much for his current abilities as for his current baggage.

Lou MacAdoo

June 2nd, 2015 at 12:20 PM ^

This guy was known and hated throughout the league as the dirtiest player in the league. He can't control his anger and he intentionally tries to harm people outside of the rules of the game. Even in giving your buddy shit in the locker room there is a certain respect you should have for them as a human being. There's a difference between messing with a guy and mentally torturing him. He helped create a toxic and evil environment and Jonathan Martin was strong enough to stand up against it. This isn't junior hockey where a bunch of immature 18 year olds get together and cause trouble, these are grown adults. Nobody wants him on their team for a reason. Yeah you should probably keep defending him. 

ClassOf14

June 2nd, 2015 at 2:37 AM ^

From his Twitter, it seems like they were at a Kenny Chesney concert in Pittsburgh, just in case anyone else was wondering what this was about.

And I get that it's widely acknowledged incognito is a shitty person but are we really supposed to gasp and make a big deal out of a player simply taking a picture with him?

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Gobgoblue

June 2nd, 2015 at 6:23 AM ^

I remember reading the entire text message exchange that was released. He's been known to be kind of a dirty player, but I don't remember anything in those texts that were really bad.

aplatypus

June 2nd, 2015 at 10:08 AM ^

but besides the frequent racial and homophobic slurs, he also said something to the effect that he was going to have sex with Martin's sister even if she wasn't really down with that. 

But you know, it's okay to do that because it was just a joke guys, come on. Actually apparently some of it was in the texts: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/14/5411608/worst-of-the-richie-incognito-jonathan-martin-report-miami-dolphins 

If you don't think there was anything bad at all in those messages, I'd worry you're as racist, homophobic and asshole-ish as Incognito is. 

WolvinLA2

June 2nd, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^

Oh, please. Have you never said something you know isn't true just to get under somebody's skin? If I told a guy on the court/field that I was going to fuck him up or bang his mom, that's just trash talk. It's very unlikely I'm going to do those things. That's how that stuff works.

If you're not a trash talker or never played football, I understand why you don't get that.

amir_6

June 2nd, 2015 at 6:53 AM ^

Isn't this guy like some racist scumbag. Sorry, I don't think our guys should be hanging out with him. But, who am I to say that.