Emil Ekiyor Not Visiting

Submitted by skegemogpoint on
Canceled visit for RU game per Nick Baumgardner. Pretty much confirms his decommitment is near. Big bummer.

Fezzik

October 28th, 2017 at 12:34 AM ^

There is a negative Nancy on this board so 50+ people feel it necessary to comment about that person rather than comment on the actual topic whenever something bad for Michigan is posted.

CHUKA

October 28th, 2017 at 10:29 AM ^

I've been seeing this a lot on this board too (came from Scout a year or so ago). Everyone is so negative. Not to my post but whenever I see an OP making a post that isn't bowing down to Harbaugh They'll get 30+ down votes even if what they said is rational and valid. People need to learn how to look at some things without bias, even if they love the subject.

ohioNblue33

October 28th, 2017 at 7:52 AM ^

Tell us something we don't know. Too much doom going on right now. Starting to feel like Hoke years. Where everything negative is posted. Everyone blaming people for why the offense sucks. Has it gotten to our strength and conditioning coach yet? Has to be his leg workouts that aren't working cause we cant get a push. /s Anyways. Let's Go Blue! Beat the fuck out of Rutgers.

TrueBlue2003

October 28th, 2017 at 1:20 AM ^

they currently start a true sophomore and RS Soph at OT, both backed up by true freshmen (Leatherwood and Wills both of whom we were in on, sigh).  And those soph's are starting in part because Cam Robinson just cycled through the program in  three years, starting every single game and then going to the NFL. Bama's OL averages the same age as our supposedly inexperienced OL.

They recruit highly talented guys, and don't redshirt many many of them, which is part of the reason they can take so many guys, and part of the reason highly rated guys like to go there: they'll play early and get to the NFL sooner than later.

The elite recruiters (just Bama and OSU, right now) don't like to redshirt because they want you to see some time as a freshman, start as a sophomore and then play like a guy ready for the pros in your third year. Only 14/44 players on the Bama 2-deep redshirted. I checked a random team that is solid but doesn't recruit many 4 or 5 stars for comparison: 30/44 players on the NW 2-deep redshirted.

Bama offers early playing time because they churn through guys quickly. 

Ekiyor has a more clear path to playing time at Bama than he does at Michigan given that he'd be behind Bredeson, Ruiz and Onwenu his first two years.

Jasper

October 28th, 2017 at 6:22 AM ^

Much of what you said about Alabama and OSU rings true, but ...

If Ekiyor were to come here (sigh) and prove himself better than Bredeson/Onwenu from the start, do you really think he'd be benched out of some strange principle? We're no longer in the "Pat Massey at defensive tackle because he's earned it" stage ... I hope.

cbs650

October 28th, 2017 at 8:17 AM ^

We have been saying there is early playing time for recruits for years. Ruiz and Filigia were supposed to guys who could play right away or at least be ready by big ten play. Not the case. Our oline coaching is lacking guys are regressing not getting better. Cole looked better at LT as a true freshman than he does as a senior.

ijohnb

October 28th, 2017 at 9:03 AM ^

and Filagia not playing may have more to do with creating and sustaining depth for the future. It is completely speculative whether they could provide any upgrade or break even right now. Regardless of what Bama currently is doing, I doubt “insert two true freshman” is the thing that would help our o-line this year.

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cbs650

October 28th, 2017 at 9:56 AM ^

I understand that but given our oline coaching in recent years we have seen a few "college ready" oline come through michigan that only got worse so the creating and sustaining depths hasnt really been working either.

Albatross

October 28th, 2017 at 9:44 AM ^

It wouldn’t be so much a recruit Bama won than one we lost. He would be going because of the piss poor job we have done recruiting him after his commitment.

It baffles me how tone deaf people are on here. The kid has spent a year making it clear that Michigan has contacting him so little he had no idea if he was still wanted.

Your not winning too many recruiting battles for elite prospects that way.

You Only Live Twice

October 28th, 2017 at 9:57 AM ^

If Michigan didn't pursue him there's a reason

If a recruit suddenly flips SEC we all know the reason

If it's simply a matter of going to Bama's superior O line and a path to the NFL, we can't do anything about it.  There are recruits every year who prefer Bama's engineering program...

There is likely more to the story than just "he had no idea if he was still wanted."

I Like Burgers

October 28th, 2017 at 11:17 AM ^

No matter how you slice it, Michigan’s offensive line recruiting has been a complete failure under Harbaugh. Way too many misses and too many of those misses came with no backup plan.



Maybe more than anything, how they recruit offensive linemen needs to change in the offseason. Because what they are doing now isn’t working.

reddogrjw

October 28th, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^

we got 2 highly rated players in 2016 in Bredeson and Onwenu playing at G

in 2017 we got Ruiz (rated 47th overall) and Filiaga (112th overall)

if those 4 pan out we have C, 2 Guards and one tackle

in 2017 we also got 2 other 4 start OL - Hudson and Hall, and 3 high 3-star OL in

Stueber (.886, ranked 365th)

Honigford (.7681, ranked 441st)

 

withour Ekiyor, we have 2 low 4star tackles (our highest need) in 2018 so far

is it Bama/OSU level?  no, but it sure as hell isn't a failure

Youngharbaugh4

October 28th, 2017 at 1:14 AM ^

Ekiyor is going to miss out on making a name for himself In Michigan football history. Like Najee Harris brother said when he wanted Najee to go to Michigan, “ he could go to Michigan and can become a legend.” I’ve always remained mum about dissing recruits but this is just straight up confusing. He would more than likely be able to come in and start at LG next year depending on how newsome looks and if bredeson shifts to LT, but nonetheless he’s making a mistake In my mind. Yes there might be a lack of depth at center for bama but they aren’t going to stop recruiting that position once he gets there. Again he will be like other bama players and sit for 3 Years with no game experience. There’s a lot to say about bama and how they put talent into the NFL, and I get the draw towards them, but honestly isn’t there more to say about a player who makes a name for themselves at their first choice and goes to the lesser school (not implying we are lesser). Now take a look at AJ Dillon tonight. Left Michigan for BC because of the loaded backfield, making himself a legend already because of it. Those players usually do better and get drafted the same or higher with there experience. Michigan might not have the coaching at the current moment, but look at the future, drev could be out and frey could be back in. Frey is an excellent talent developer, and has put many first rounders out in the draft. Being a player at Michigan just means more, the players who are here live forever with the fans, at bama he’s just another player. Name another player from bama before 2008, no name another offensive lineman from bama.. I’ll wait

MIGHTYMOJO91

October 28th, 2017 at 5:34 AM ^

You make some valid points but you are being blinded by your homer glasses. I have been a Michigan fan 45+ years it is just that not everyone has a deep rooted love for Michigan like you or I.