August 20th, 2013 at 3:03 PM ^

I wonder what drives the insane amount of decommitments / flameouts of ND's recruiting classes of late vs Michigan which has had like 2...or 3 (Pharaoh, Conley...) decommitments under Hoke.

/insert picture of purple Brian Kelly

but in all seriousness, they've had a heck of a time actually getting their highly ranked classes onto the field

Leaders And Best

August 20th, 2013 at 4:13 PM ^

Prospects from your home state/region are much more likely to stick to their commitment than one more than 500 miles away. ND has no home area, and the Big Ten has slowly squeezed them out of areas they were once strong in. In this day and age with almost every college football game televised, it is no longer that special to have your own NBC contract. Look at ND's recruiting over the last 10 years and see how few Midwest prospects they have. That tells the story right there.


August 20th, 2013 at 3:04 PM ^

Look at Steve Lorenz crystal-balling Hood to UNC on March 20th and never waivering despite his April committment to ND.  Lorenz looking like a genius on this one. 

turd ferguson

August 20th, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^

24/7 doesn't let people change their predictions once a recruit is committed.  Lorenz was one of many with a UNC prediction, which he couldn't change after Hood committed to ND.

Lorenz, however, was happy to bring attention to his brilliant foresight with a recent Twitter posting.

San Diego Mick

August 20th, 2013 at 3:06 PM ^

but wasn't he trying to lure other recruits to ND ala the recruits coming to U-M? If so, what happened to all of that, I always get leery of kids doing this, it makes me wonder about their decision making and if it's the type of kids we want.

I know David Dawson did this too and re-committed, I'm just saying it's a questionable thing to do, it affects so many people:

-the coaching and who they continue to pursue or not.

-the other recruits whom might not get a chance to commit now because of having no more room for another player at said position.

-Screwing up the coaching staffs credibility with other recruits whom they were recruiting but stopped after another commitment and then having to try and recruit the spurned recruit again.

Recruiting is a bitch!


August 20th, 2013 at 3:29 PM ^

I don't think any of those are real concerns. The coaches make the final call, so if one of our recruits is pitching a guy we don't have room for, then that kid just won't be able to commit. I just don't see the harm there. And I just don't get your third point and how that has anything to do with a recruit recruiting another prospect.

This is like if I try to convince my friend to come work at my company. I don't control whether he gets hired, I'm just convincing him to interview or to take the job if it's offered to him.


August 20th, 2013 at 4:33 PM ^

OK, I see now. I thought since you mentioned him luring kids to ND in your opening sentence, that that was your thesis, when really it had nothing to do with you post.

But yeah, decommitting throws things for a loop, but I think everyone understands that it's all part of it.


August 20th, 2013 at 3:07 PM ^

I was discerning priesthood back in the mid 90's, and I went to Notre Dame for the weekend. Anyway, I loved it, and I was so intent on going to Notre Dame while I was there for the two week period. I then came home, the feeling went away, and I never even visited the campus again.

South Bend Wolverine

August 20th, 2013 at 4:22 PM ^

You are correct - in the Catholic Church, we talk about "discerning" a vocation to the priesthood (or about becoming a monk or a nun).  The idea is that you are attempting to discern whether or not God is calling you to that path, as opposed to considering one profession or another.

(Posted solely to explain word usage, not to start a religious discussion/debate.)


August 20th, 2013 at 3:11 PM ^

I am not a Brian Kelly fan, so I don't feel bad for ND. I wouldn't no matter who was coaching them.

Kelly will more than likely end up in the NFL, I cannot see him at ND for an extended period of time.


August 20th, 2013 at 3:17 PM ^

Interestingly, the Crystball Ball over at 247Sports, which in Hood's case has not been updated fuilly since late March (it is being changed as we speak), now has him pegged for North Carolina - granted, many of these were literally just updated, although a fair number were NC predictions from March and early April. Hood also had offers from Clemson, Duke, East Carolina, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami (YTM), NC State, Ohio State, Ole Miss, SOuth Carolina, Stanford, USC, Vanderbilt, Virginia, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest. 


August 20th, 2013 at 5:54 PM ^

I used to live in that neck of the woods ... back in 1984 to 1989.

That UNC-Duke-NC State triangle is actually a very nice part of the country.

UNC is a very beautiful campus, and Chapel Hill is a lot like Ann Arbor.

That said ...

Playing football at UNC is like going into federal witness protection.  Down there fall is just a waiting period until basketball starts.  Basketball rules, football is a distant second.

My experience was people from North Carolina are very proud of their state and their heritage and they like to stay close to home.  No judgment, just an observation.

So if UNC, then it makes some sense.  Certainly more than, say, playing for Duke or Wake Forest.


August 20th, 2013 at 9:05 PM ^

+1, Informative

The only person I know that cares about Carolina football has... absolutely no connection to the university whatsoever.  The only game I watched last year was Carolina - Duke, and I rooted for Duke because the thought of Duke going to a bowl is hilarious and Carolina cheats anyway.

Fall Saturdays do bring lots of strange old people to campus but no one under forty seems to give a damn.

Ty Butterfield

August 20th, 2013 at 3:25 PM ^

Not sure why any parent would want their son in South Bend after what has transpired under Kelly. He really seems like he wants to bolt for the NFL. Should be interesting to see if he stays after this year. I would love to see Kelly as the Jets coach. The New York media would have a field day with him.