(ED:LSA) Kansas crushed by Baylor 81-58

Submitted by orobs on March 9th, 2013 at 8:03 PM

2 minutes left, and baylor is up 20+. #1 seed back on the line with a win tomorrow?


turd ferguson

March 9th, 2013 at 8:06 PM ^

This will be a fun year for filling out tournament brackets. I think we'll see a lot of Duke and Indiana in people's Final Four predictions, but beyond that there really should be a lot of variation. Even those two feel very beatable.


March 9th, 2013 at 8:06 PM ^

Great reminder that any team, any where can go down.  (Perhaps we should have kept that fixed in mind after the admittedly disappointing (sigh) Penn State team.)  Still some season to go with the tourneys and a #1 is definitely in play.


March 9th, 2013 at 8:06 PM ^

win against Indiana and win the BTT and get some help from UNC tonight and the # 1 overall seed might be on the table.  Who would have thought that when Michigan lost to Penn State.


March 9th, 2013 at 8:21 PM ^

Gonzaga losing before the tournament would be a huge upset even in this season of upsets - I don't think it's likely. We have to hope for a Boise State kind of scenario where they get passed as other teams get quality wins. They would anyway be in the West bracket and would not hurt our chances at getting the Midwest even if they are ahead of us - just need to stay ahead of Indiana/ Kansas and maybe State.

Michigan Marshmallow

March 9th, 2013 at 8:46 PM ^

I was talking specifically abou the overall #1 seed. I agree that it is unlikely Gonzaga loses. I really only think the only way they lose the overall 1 is if they lose or if Duke/Indiana wins out and then wins their tourney. Otherwise I think the voters will see that they only have two loses and say "Oh wow! They must be freaking amazing!"


March 9th, 2013 at 8:09 PM ^

You love the surprises, but you hate them all the same because so much is up in the air.  Especially this year, no one is unbeatable & so we should have a lot of surprises.


March 9th, 2013 at 8:15 PM ^

This was a game I thought Kansas would have a tough time winning - they have been shaky on the road and have had more than a couple shaky wins in which they scraped by through good coaching/ questionable officiating. Baylor was desperate and got the big win!

We win tomorrow and we are almost guaranteed a 2 seed. Win 3 games in total (tomorrow + btt) and we will likely have a 1 seed.


March 9th, 2013 at 8:23 PM ^

Shall this be the evening B-ball thread??  I actaully picked Baylor 3's over KU's winning margin for Streak for Cash, not thinking Baylor would come out and beat that a**.  The win from earlier in the year became more impressive as the year progressed, we beat the co-Big 12 Champ.

Duke - UNC game without a title on the line is like Prince without a pickup basketball game agaisnt Charlie Murphy, "This bores me..".


March 9th, 2013 at 8:25 PM ^

I changed the title to reflect the final outcome - hopefully the OP does not mind. 

The glaring stat - Kansas did not shoot like Kansas. Indeed, their effective FG% was 42.9% compared to Baylor's 63.5%, and add this to Kansas having more turnovers and Baylor playing some spirited defense, and there it is. I believe that was the last Big 12 regular season game for both Kansas State and Kansas today, and as I did the math right, that makes them both 14-4 in their conference. 


March 9th, 2013 at 8:32 PM ^

I'm not saying Michigan wins it all or even goes to the Final Four but with no dominant teams, why not us? There is no team in the country we can't beat.

Lest we forget, we are 20-0 in Home/Neutral court games this year. Our struggles have been on the road in the toughest conference in America with one of the youngest teams in the country.

On a neutral court the best and most talented team with great guard play should win. Yes, we could bow out early but we could easily make a deep run.

Edit: Oh and we have the best player in the country at the most important position (PG)


March 9th, 2013 at 10:04 PM ^

We're not the only top ten team who has that kind of horrible loss on our resume.

Kansas lost to TCU who is currently 10-21. 

Georgetown lost to South Florida who is currently 13-17

Miami lost to Wake Forest who is 13-17.  They also have losses to Indiana State and Florida-Gulf Coast. 

If we're going to be hurt, I guess those teams will be too. 


March 10th, 2013 at 9:33 AM ^

A month ago. Until yesterday, they hadn't lost since, and they've been winning by double digits. Georgetown lost to USF in mid January, and they're 12-1 since, with wins over ND, Marquette, Louisville and Syracuse (twice, the last one a beat down).

The point is, these teams are playing hot, and we aren't. Even when we win any more, we have to sweat and struggle and cross our fingers, even against mediocre opposition. We have no played a really strong game against a top notch team in a long time.


March 9th, 2013 at 9:04 PM ^

This is the case for both polls, AP and Coaches.

The most current poll had us at #7  and #8 in the AP and Coaches' poll respectively.

The week of February 18th, we were #7 in both polls.

All other weeks, we have indeed been at least #5 in both. We've actually been #2 in various weeks more than any other rank. 


March 9th, 2013 at 9:13 PM ^

So why is everyone on here so confident we'll lose early in the tourney?

Yeah weve had 5 losses in conference on the road but this isn't football. It happens to everyone in basketball. Maybe because we haven't been in this position in 20+ years and our fanbase doesn't understand college basketball very well?


March 9th, 2013 at 9:57 PM ^

remember this article? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130118/college-basketball-early-warnings/index.html

and that was back when our defensive ranking was slightly better. we didn't get any better over the course of the year.

we can obviously still make a deep run in the tourney, especially this year. but our defensive woes are a huge red flag in actually expecting this to happen.


March 10th, 2013 at 9:38 AM ^

I raised substantive issues that you know are a fact, but you'd rather just ignore them and fling poo. This team is not playing well right now. Their offense has regressed to everyone standing around waiting for Trey Burke to make things happen by himself. Their defense is weak, and is not going to win them any games in the tournament.