SpazCarpenter

July 17th, 2016 at 10:24 AM ^

"GLARING MECHANICAL FLAW." I watched The Opening and the boy looked solid. The drop of the star is probably a result of his performance in the throwing drills, which are meaningless IMO.

Sopwith

July 17th, 2016 at 10:54 AM ^

how people can discount a player's superb productivity on the field in favor of something cosmetic (supposedly). Or overrate a player on aesthetics and measurables and ignore the lack of translation to football productivity. 

Such is the business, I guess. 

EDIT: here, the first minute of this scene from Moneyball pretty much sums it up for me.

 

MGoStrength

July 17th, 2016 at 12:25 PM ^

Sports ratings, salaries, and even playing time are more often based on potential than on production...not saying it's right or wrong, but it's a given.  It probably says more about human psychology than anything.

TrueBlue2003

July 17th, 2016 at 9:17 PM ^

everyone ranked ahead of him has been EXTREMELY productive in high scholl as well.  He's a high four star.  It's splitting hairs between him and anyone else ranked within 25-50 in either direction. If there has to be a reason to put them in some order for some reason and it ends up being less than perfect technique, fine.  Everyone agrees he's a highly talented QB, so paired with Harbaugh, can't wait to see what he does.

Wolfman

July 17th, 2016 at 11:18 AM ^

I say puzzling because they indicated he struggled somewhat trhough the drills, but as soon as his team mates took the field and it was game action, "He came alive, looking like a different player and had the presences of a professional signal caller. He was in command, knew where everyone one, and always made the proper decision." Now it doesn't get much better than that, going from, as you say, meaningless to where it actually matters and that's why it's puzzling. 

However, there could have been some performances by borderline  4/5 players just too consistent in every aspect, drills, live action, etc., basically having the perfect camp thereby making it all but impossible to not move them up to five star group, and it's fluid as we know so that could go back and forth a few more times. 

I recall one time, about a decade ago, when the state of Alabama just had a huge number of players that deserved 5 stars. And directly from the mouth of a Rivals employee, "but due to geographical concerns, these rating sites have customers in all parts of the country, it's important to reflect that. If we gave a fifth star to everyone deserving in Alabama this season, we would lose interest in other parts of the country." They don't usually get that honest. 

Also, and this is a big one that we are all aware of is those that are considered hard commits are going to be dropped much quicker than the one who has yet to make up his mind and, ideally, he'll have a number of schools representing all regions of the country, thus maintaining the interest of recruiting fans from the e. coast to the w. coast. These are the type of players that influence subscription sales.  

And then sometimes, they stray about as far away from the honesty shown above to doing things that make little sense and they are aware, unless they choose, they don't need to offer an explanation. I recall when Ron Jonhson from Muskegon was the overall  no. 1 rated player and cb in the nation his jr. year. He was injured and the decision was made that although he would play both spots his senior year in h.s., he was going to be a receiver in college. Lo and behold when the first rankings were released, prior to the start of the season, there he was still no. 1 overall, but this time as a receiver. 

So not much to fret here. 

 

 

BornInA2

July 17th, 2016 at 10:43 AM ^

I'm beginning to suspect that the shuffling up and down of kids is as much click-bait as it is reflective of any real thoughtful analysis.

"Site traffic is slow this week, we need more ad impressions. Who can we contrversially move up or down?"

poppinfresh

July 17th, 2016 at 10:52 AM ^

Seems to be a few factors 1) mechanics and arm strength still need tweaking 2) threw some pics at the opening 3) struggled with throwing in small windows in tight coverage That's what one scout guy listed. Also says they rank kids on college potential not career potential

Perkis-Size Me

July 17th, 2016 at 10:54 AM ^

WHAT?? NO FIVE STARZZ?? DO NOT WANT!!

But yeah okay, whatever. Doesn't change the player he is and what he can do. Considering his production, his intangibles, and his gene pool, I think Harbaugh will make all under the soon soon forget about whatever "glaring mechanical flaw" he may have.

Seriously, McCaffery, under Harbaugh's tutelage, will be a destroyer of worlds.



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megaswami

July 17th, 2016 at 11:14 AM ^

So he's ranked 36 Nationally, 2 amongst QB's, and 1 in Colorado. So, there's only 1 5* QB in the country! Validity just went out the window for 247. Makes no sense. But who cares, saw the kid throw and he's a stud. How many guys have ever had the words, "plays better with a defense in front of him" attributed to them?



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WolvinLA2

July 17th, 2016 at 12:47 PM ^

I don't see how this hurts 247's validity. If they always said "4 QBs get five stars no matter what" that would hurt their validity. Also, McCaffrey is 3rd among QBs, behind Hunter Johnson and Tate Martell in the composite (though 247 rates McCaffrey ahead of Martell). Frankly, I'm surprised Hunter Johnson is still ranked as highly as he is.

A Fan In Fargo

July 17th, 2016 at 11:21 AM ^

Not going to matter in the end! I don't think Ruddock, Luck or Kaepernick ever had 5 stars either and look at what they became. So...

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JayMo4

July 17th, 2016 at 11:26 AM ^

Being coached by Harbaugh is worth an extra star by itself.  Therefore they had to drop him, because 5* plus 1* for Harbaugh makes 6* - an impossibility that would cause a tear in the time/space/recruiting continuum.

Do you want the universe to collapse into itself?  Yeah, me neither.  Four stars is fine.