RHammer - SNRE 98

October 15th, 2015 at 12:27 PM ^

I noted you described the advice you would provide to staff at the Daily, and I wanted to offer the following back to you in the spirit of cooperation:

These are quotes pulled from your article:

"MSU hasn’t just beat U-M in their matchups since Dantonio took over..."

"In the Spartans six wins..."

"U-M fans will point to the Wolverines 68-34-5 all-time series lead"

"“Really doesn’t take much to have a chip on our shoulder,” MSU senior quarterback Connor Cook said When did he say this? . “We’re going to go into each and every game with the underdog mentality..."

"It may not be the Wolverines fault that their hype train has left the Spartans feeling disrespected, but they will suffer the consequences...."

Overall, nicely written, and decently argued piece; however, I am assuming, with respect to the above-referenced points, that you meant the following:

"MSU hasn't just beaten U-M..."

"...Spartans' six wins..."

"...Wolverines' 68-34-5 all time series lead..."

"...Cook said Tuesday."

"...Wolverines' fault..."  

Overall, without the typos I'd have given it a B+; if your editors ever need some advice, feel free to give us a call.

Good luck Saturday.



October 14th, 2015 at 8:35 PM ^

I normally think the Daily column is great, but not so much this year.  That said, compared to the State writer, it's the best thing I've ever read.


October 14th, 2015 at 8:37 PM ^

I feel like this needs to be said: Michigan State did not win because they have a chip on their shoulder. They've won, most recently, because they've had the better team. They did not play out of their minds when the faced us. They played their normal game, and they beat us because their team was good and ours wasn't.

This year is different. We are good and so are they. However, This year, I think we have the better team. The football gods may shine on them this Saturday, and they may become lucky enough to beat us... But unless a miracle happens, we will win this one.

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October 14th, 2015 at 8:43 PM ^

Very true. But that doesn't usually happen regardless. Otherwise JLS would have won a game or two (and yes, he almost did against a superior UM team). But the point here is that Dantonio beat UM a lot because hair teams were better coached and prepared, not because of the chip on their shoulder.

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October 14th, 2015 at 8:45 PM ^

Ok, but are you seriously going to argue that the last 3 years msu wasn't the better team and simply won on waves of hate and emotion? Come on man, they have had multiple NFL players on those teams end up drafted, including potentially the best RB in the NFL now. Sure they may hate us on top of that but they won independent of that.

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October 14th, 2015 at 8:55 PM ^

I'm guessing the State News fella just figured he didn't need to be clever because of how much the rivalry has favored MSU these past 8 years, but it felt flat.  Its not like the Daily's column was some Onion level roasting but at least it was creative and amusing.  

The "maggot" part reminded me of talking to one of the Daily guys who wrote this column a few years ago and got numerous emails from angry Spartan fans.  He said that he had never seen so many misspellings of that particular homophoic slur in his life.  


October 14th, 2015 at 8:57 PM ^

You guys are being way to hard  on  the sparty writer. He very accurately captured the essence of Dantonio in every possible way. And now you're disrespecting him for it. He'll probably go down in the rankings even though he won the column.


October 14th, 2015 at 9:00 PM ^

the "ten men on the punt team" of journalism: 


“Really doesn’t take much to have a chip on our shoulder,” MSU senior quarterback Connor Cook said When did he say this? . “We’re going to go into each and every game with the underdog mentality, that we’re going on out there and prove to everyone why we deserve the respect that we deserve.”


October 14th, 2015 at 11:49 PM ^

I just don't get it... why are Spartans bitching about not being respected?  By whom, the media?  Michigan has nothing to do with that- so why is there a chip on players' shoulders? Additionally, what has MSU done this year that they deserve respect?

Most importantly, why can't MSU just win because they are the better team...why do they have to be "more motivated"?   I just don't get it.  If anyone has a chip... it's Michigan... who owes MSU a grade-A beatdown (in the football sense.)

kevin holt

October 14th, 2015 at 9:36 PM ^

The columns:

A: MSU has an inferiority complex or at least an immaturity complex and thinks football started in 2013;

B: MSU has an inferiority complex or at least an immaturity complex and thinks football started in 2008


October 14th, 2015 at 9:51 PM ^

I don't know what will happen on Saturday, but I do know that was a journalistic ass kicking. The Daily article was creative and very funny. 

The State News article was tired and hackneyed.

Why do State fans intentionally perpetuate the inferiority-complex stereotype that they claim to hate?


October 15th, 2015 at 12:17 AM ^

I will never accept that Nebraska deserved a share of the MNC.  They needed an illegally kicked ball to force overtime against a mediocre Missouri.  That was a straight up lovely parting gift from the coaches poll to Tom Osborne.


October 15th, 2015 at 12:31 AM ^

Michigan State has been more good

Michigan has been bad

Michigan State plays angry and that's why they are much more good than Michigan

Michigan scored much less points than Michigan State. Dantonio says disrespect fuel that fire.

Michigan State win.


October 15th, 2015 at 2:32 AM ^

For Saturday's beat down of little brother. Where the Michigan article was very thoughtful and well written. MSU came over whining and in the past. Already they are coming up with ways to cry about the defeat we will be handing them?


October 15th, 2015 at 6:32 AM ^

The Michigan Daily's column is spot on.  True Story: in 2011, I was called a "gay (m)aggot" by a group of Spartans on my way to the stadium simply for wearing a Michigan shirt.  Inside the stadium people were cheering and actually verbalizing approval for admittedly dirty attacks on Denard.  One man literally said “injure that @%% #&[email protected]” after one of the many cheap shots on Denard.  I was seated next to an old man who said he was a professor at MSU who apologized to me for all of the 15 yard penalties that the Spartans got that day.


We are talking about a fan base that idolizes the ancient Spartans.  The Spartans were anti-intellectual Neanderthals that had a "society" with more slaves than citizens.  A rite of passage to become a Spartan man was to sneak out at night and kill a slave.  What is the difference between having a Confederate Flag on your car or a Spartan Flag on your car?  Both were slave owning and backwards.