December 14th, 2011 at 4:50 PM ^

Well, Gene Smith did serve in the NCAA Infractions Committee. I am guessing he still has a lot of ties there. It is not unreasonable to expect that Gene Smith is well aware of what is coming down the pipe and he relayed that info to Meyer.

It would be naive to think he is completely in the blind.


December 14th, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^

is that Smith's connections to the infractions committee aren't as solid as they were, but he hasn't realized that yet. He may be working on the assumption that if anything more were coming he would know; that assumption may no longer be correct.


December 14th, 2011 at 3:52 PM ^

If he does know, and he's allowed to tell recruits, after the NCAA gave Ohio an exception allowing him to "co-coach" while recruiting, and prior to any official announcement by the NCAA... then the NCAA just annointed Meyer and OSU untouchable.



December 14th, 2011 at 3:53 PM ^

This is very interesting. If the NCAA hands down OSU any kind of penatly above what was self-imposed, doesn't this make Urban a flat-out liar? If they don't hand out anything additional, well..I'm not expecting much, but I'm not expecting nothing.


December 14th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^

He's lying his ass off, we're all educated here you really think that's all their going to get? The media will run all over the NCAA if that's the case, and u think USC ad won't speak up and make the media publicize this??? Your nuts the bucks bout to crack.


December 14th, 2011 at 4:02 PM ^

Saying two things
<br>1) i do not think Osu can escape with nothing else, the media will be all over it. (putting pressure calling the NCAA out) I highly doubt they would want that.
<br>2) we all seen what happened to USC, the AD at USC has a tendency to speak up about this shit; I've seen him on ESPN calling out the NCAA and he wont hesitate calling out Osu. Therefore Osu won't come out onscaved it's not in the best interest of the NCAA, friends or not friends with Gordon gee. This is a business and in the end there are no true friendships in business.


December 14th, 2011 at 4:05 PM ^

in the NCAA caring what the media thinks. 

This is the same institution that concluded Rick Majerus committed violations when he took Keith Van Horn out to eat to tell him his father was dead.


December 14th, 2011 at 4:40 PM ^

If you are right that it's a business than it would be in the best interest if the NCAA to do nothing more to TSIO bc tsio is one of the only athletic programs in the country that makes a profit- therefore the ncaa will not castrate that cash cow even if it does have mad cow disease


December 14th, 2011 at 5:05 PM ^

The NCAA does not make any money off of OSU. The main source of revenue for the NCAA is the MBB tournament. They make no money off of football and have a contract for the MBB tournament that is not affected if one team isn't in the fold. The NCAA has a lot of motivations, but "they'd lose money from cash-cow OSU" isn't one of them.


December 14th, 2011 at 5:31 PM ^

According to the NCAA website, fully 90% of its revenue comes from TV and marketing rights fees, totaling some $700 million.

The stated revenue from championships is $69.5 million, or 9% of its total.

The TV and marketing rights fees that the NCAA can command are higher if the traditional major powers are successful, because of the audiences that will tune in. If OSU is 6-6, their share of a national audience is going to shrink, making them less valuable in the mix. It may be indirect, but I think it's silly to think the NCAA does not benefit from programs like OSU being strong nationally, and being strong nationally would be a problem if serious sanctions were levied. Put it this way, if OSU, UM, ND, Alabama, USC, Oregon, OK, Florida, and LSU were all simultaneously in the dumper, the brand value of big-time college football would be at least temporarily harmed.



December 14th, 2011 at 5:47 PM ^

The NCAA gets no TV and marketing dollars from football. There was a big lawsuit about it back in the 1970's and that's why our conferences set TV deals for football (and regular season basketball). What you're seeing is the NCAA allowing EA to use their logos in video games, and the TV rights to the MBB tournament. The revenue you see from championships are the ticket sales, and on site sales like that.

You could put a death penalty on all 120 FBS schools for one year and the NCAA would lose virtually nothing (absent the logo liscenses for video games).


December 14th, 2011 at 8:39 PM ^

people that there's no "cash cow" regarding big time football programs and the NCAA is thankless work. No one wants to believe it because it's not as good a story as believing  the suits in Indy don't want to punish some teams because it would somehow impact the org's revenue. Point them to the NCAA's financials, and they're still not convinced. Bang head on desk. 



December 14th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^

USC will likely do more than that. They may very well sue. They are getting nailed for 45 scholarships for the actions of 1 player. The NCAA deemed they should have known, but still has no credible evidence they actually did.

Ohio is guilty of obvious failure to oversee, lying, and playing ineligible players their coach new to be ineligible.   


December 14th, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^

It's kinda sad that the only hope for action would be through legal action from USC (which, I don't think would have any eventual impact on OSU...only the NCAA itself).  Of course, the NCAA could take a strong action against OSU.  Hell, they might even demand that OSU allows their former coach to retire with a severance package!


December 14th, 2011 at 3:59 PM ^

I doubt they "know" for a fact that they're not getting hit but I wouldn't be surprised if they're getting pretty strong indications from the NCAA that their self-imposed sanctions will be enough.