DL at Mattison's House

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Marshall is huge! Jeter is a big fella too!

Pkf97

June 15th, 2017 at 1:44 PM ^

Is Brady Pallante still on the roster?  Thought not.

Pretty cool if he's still invited to hang out and be part of the Mattison meals, though.

Double-D

June 15th, 2017 at 2:10 PM ^

This years team has a ton of explosiveness. Winovich looks huge compared to last year. The light went on and he got a taste of it last year. You can see he is on a mission. Dwumfour is going to have a big year. Solomon, Jeter, Kemp, Hudson, Vilain.... This D-line is loaded.

reshp1

June 15th, 2017 at 2:28 PM ^

First team won't fall off at all probably. The thing we'll miss from last year is a legit 8-9 man rotation. If they can get off the field quickly with a lot of 3 and outs, we should be fine. I'm a little worried about teams that can string together some drives and tire them out.

Berkley@MainMan

June 15th, 2017 at 2:58 PM ^

Depth is a problem at this point. We can not afford to have an injury to the starting NT,(not pictured above). Jinx averted, and knock on wood! It would also be nice if the backup NT could stay out of the training room. While it's nice that he can leap tall boxes in a single bound, I would like him to start getting some reps. ;)

Double-D

June 15th, 2017 at 5:36 PM ^

Solomon-Dwumfour-Vilain-Hudson-Kemp. They may be short on experience but that is an incredibly athletic group of large strong guys. I am sure they will be much better later in the season but don't sell that group short. I think D-line is deep going into the season and will have the 8-9 man rotation. These guys are going to get good minutes 1st 4-5 weeks of the season to find out if they are ready.

Goggles Paisano

June 15th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^

Lawrence Marshall with a large set of arms.  

If you have 15 large dudes over for dinner, do you need to plan the food prep around trying to feed 30-40 regular sized folks?  

DrMantisToboggan

June 15th, 2017 at 2:28 PM ^

Unless you are still playing football (or maybe soccer or track) in a professional league I would bet everything I own that you cannot run a 4.6 40, random internet guy. I was a walk-on and am currently 40 pounds lighter than my walk-on days and still training like my football days and there's no way in hell I could still run the 4.7 I peaked at. A 4.6 40 would make you one of the fastest 20 players on the team right now.

DrMantisToboggan

June 15th, 2017 at 3:02 PM ^

I remember a couple weeks ago Sam Webb was talking about the number of dudes in the stands at Comerica that could throw an 85 mph fastball and he was way overestimating it. People who watch a lot of sports vastly overestimate how easy it is to do what the athletes are doing, just because they see it so much that it becomes common to them. 

 

I would be surprised if 5% of this board could run a sub-5 second 40 yd dash. This poster above is claiming to run a 4.6. Remember that Devin Funchess ran a 4.7 at the combine. Does anyone on this board that is not currently a college or professional athlete think that they are as fast as an NFL receiver?

DrMantisToboggan

June 15th, 2017 at 3:10 PM ^

Yeah I get that, and those distance figures may be accurate as well. It's also true that distance training only doesn't help much with improving 40 times. Like I said, I still train in many of the same ways as I did when I was actually running a sub 4.8 40 and I am much lighter with lower body fat, and there's no way in hell I could match my best 40 ever. You have to be born special and continuously training to run a 4.6 40. I'd say the percentage of people that can do this outside of major college and pro sports is less than 0.1%.

Pepto Bismol

June 15th, 2017 at 3:20 PM ^

I was pretty decent all-around athlete in my younger days.  I played travel hockey and high school baseball.  Back in my early 20s, my brother and I got curious, marched off 40 yards and grabbed the stop-watch.

We ran matching 5.2 second 40s.  We were both crushed.  That's the last time I tried that nonsense. 

WolvinLA2

June 15th, 2017 at 3:29 PM ^

I'm not saying he can do it or anything, but there are people out there other than football players with 4.6 speed. I was a quite good track athlete in high school and my times were better than many of the DB/WR/RB recruits we have (not all of them, of course). There's no doubt as an adult when I was still training hard I could run a 4.6. Those days are well behind me, but there are very good athletes out there.

Steves_Wolverines

June 15th, 2017 at 3:30 PM ^

Very true.

Would I bet my life that I could run a 4.60 at the NFL Combine right now? Heck no.

I might be closer to a 4.69 and I run more consistently around a 4.75. But for the example I gave above, if I'm running away from Rashan Gary, I think I might find that extra gear and run a perfect 4.60 lol. Which, by the way, probably wouldn't be fast enough to run away from him. And he's got around 140 lbs on me...

Good to know there are others on the board who keep up an intense workout schedule. 

Kuiu

June 15th, 2017 at 3:20 PM ^

To be clear, I'm not calling you a liar. I know there ARE people who aren't pro atheletes that are capable. I'm just commenting on how often people overestimate their speed. 4.6 is flat out explosive athleticism. I have no basis in this but I would guess even the Kenyan marathoners who dominate their sport aren't running 4.6 40's. Could no doubt be way off in that last statement. It would be interesting to see what kind of 40 times some of the worlds best marathoners ran.

Steves_Wolverines

June 15th, 2017 at 3:33 PM ^

Yeah marathon runners have those long and skinny frames, but so does Usain Bolt, so maybe they could run a decent sprint. 

It'd be pretty interesting to know. I remember hearing during the Olympics that Bolt has never ran a mile in his life. So I don't think sprinters would do well in distance, but distance runners might be OK at sprinting? 

mlax27

June 15th, 2017 at 3:49 PM ^

I coached a high school lacrosse team and we tested 40's every year as part of tryouts, electronically timed.  Our fastest athletes were consistently around the 4.6 range.  Not world class, but very good athletes near their prime.  The top half were probably around or under 5.0.  

FLwolvfan22

June 16th, 2017 at 5:57 AM ^

At work we played soccer at lunch time, a bunch of hacks but there were S. Americans and a Cuban guy who was a former professional in Cuba. That freakin' guy could handle the ball like Messi and fast. Just being a hack going up against a guy like that, he can litealaly and did often make us look stupid.

jcorqian

June 16th, 2017 at 12:35 AM ^

I ran a 4.5 40 in high school (hand timed, so prob like high 4.6 electronic timed). I have no doubt that with a little training I could still get below 4.7. I'm 28. What you have to realize is a lot of these players you are talking about are very large people. Someone like a Devin Funchess is 6'5" and like what, 240 lbs? For them to run a 4.7 or 4.8 40 is insane. For a small guy like me to do it (5'9" 175 lb) is really not a huge deal. Small fast guys are not super rare in the grand scheme of things. What's difficult is to be a large fast guy who is also super strong - can block - and super coordinated - can catch the ball / evade tacklers / etc. That's what is rare and special for pro athletes. Many random guys can be really good at one thing, whether it be speed strength or coordination. Elite athletes are elite because they are good at them all.