Wolverine Devotee

May 19th, 2012 at 5:09 PM ^

I really think #7 should become a Legend number.

You have Rick Leach, the first-ever QB at Michigan to start as a Freshman, start for four straight years. He led Michigan to three straight Big Ten Championships and three straight wins over ohio.

Then there is Chad Henne, who holds every passing record in the single season and career categories. He also led Michigan to a Big Ten championship in 2004.

Bando Calrissian

May 19th, 2012 at 5:23 PM ^

I wonder if all the folks who tear into Braylon around here, connecting his off field issues with the #1 jersey, would do the same with Rick Leach, the Legends patch, and his rather well-documented issues with substance abuse during his MLB career. Huge suspension, going AWOL on his team during a bender or two...

In reply to by Section 1

Bando Calrissian

May 19th, 2012 at 6:27 PM ^

If Braylon disappeared from his team on a Saturday night, missed a game on Sunday, and was in Goodell's office on Monday explaining away a bender on his way to a suspension and rehab by Tuesday, you'd have four sanctimonious diaries filed here by Friday. Good to know you keep such obvious double standards based on your own petty agenda.

blueheron

May 19th, 2012 at 6:26 PM ^

Poor Section 1 ... he has NEG-ON-SIGHT status to how many MGoBlog readers? Many, surely ...

Anyway, the answer is no for me, too. It could certainly be argued that some of Leach's actions have tarnished the Michigan Man name (whatever TF it may be).

Here's an important difference IMO: With one exception (his unfriendly remarks about Lloyd after the '08 Iowa game and during the rest of the year), Leach hasn't made himself bigger than the program. I personally interpreted his RichRod enthusiasm as an expression of support. (I may be in the minority there.)

Braylon, OTOH, has routinely made himself bigger than the program. #1 jersey (x many), publicly whining about RichRod (said jersey) *and* Hoke (little brother Berkley ... fergodsake), etc. He's high maintenance, full stop. His scholarship is a wonderful gesture but it does not offset his repeated jacka$$ery. Only someone lousy in ethical mathematics would make that argument.

BTW, Bando, would you give Braylon an overall pass? Just curious ...

Bando Calrissian

May 19th, 2012 at 6:36 PM ^

No. But I do think Rick Leach has been given a pass by people who are too young, too ignorant, or too residually concerned with Rich Rodriguez to call a spade a spade. Rick Leach lost almost a third of an MLB season for a raging coke habit. Got caught with drugs in a team hotel. Disappeared from his club and missed games because of his addictions. Braylon has, what, a few offseason incidents and a lively tongue. Sure, that's problematic, but it never compromised his ability to fulfill his obligations to his team, and has never appeared to impact his ability to function as an adult. All I'm saying is that if folks are going to torpedo Braylon and the #1, they might as well acknowledge or consider how Rick Leach has conducted himself if he is going to be mentioned for the Legends honor.

go16blue

May 19th, 2012 at 7:45 PM ^

Just a thought, but if DG is really moving to WR, numbers 21 & 1 will be open for him by the time Shane gets to campus. If he's really making the change, I could see him earning one of those jerseys and giving Shane the #12. Again, I think we're all reading a bit too much into this (12 isn't legally any different from 7 for WRs, and I doubt he would change just because it felt better), but just a thought.

CoachBuczekFHS

May 19th, 2012 at 9:24 PM ^

Come on guys. We can think of better things to talk about on here. D Gardner changing numbers seems like we're reaching for topic a little bit. I know it's baseball season which is possibly the most boring time of the year for football fans. But come on, we can do better. 

chalkeater

May 19th, 2012 at 10:30 PM ^

Holy lack of Ockham's Razor, people!

What if the coaching staff is just moving away from multiple players having the same number and Brandin Hawthorne got to keep #7 due to seniority?

Maybe?

Hello?

elm

May 19th, 2012 at 11:43 PM ^

Jeez, I can't believe there have been so many posts and no one has yet offered the most obvious interpretation: Devin knows Shane is about to decommit, so the #12 is now available to Devin.  Remember, you heard it here first!

(And, wow, if this actually happens, I'm going to feel so much like crap for posting this snark here...)

Seth

May 20th, 2012 at 8:31 AM ^

Players in Bentley Database to wear 12 since 1960:

Name Years Pos
Roundtree, Roy 2009-'11 WR
Floyd, J.T. 2008-'10 DB
Tech, Karl 2008-'08 DB
Cone, David 2006-'08 QB
Homaday, Matt 2006-'06 DB
Smith, Landon 2004-'05 WR
Mandich, Mike 2004-'04 TE
Gutierrez, Matt 2002-'05 QB
Williams, Brandon 1999-'02 DB
Kaselitz, Mike 1999-'01 QB
Dreisbach, Scott 1994-'98 QB
Powers, Ricky 1990-'93 RB
Khan, Gulam 1989-'89 K
Musgrave, Doug 1989-'89 QB
Grbac, Elvis 1988-'88 QB
Bock, Ernest F. 1985-'87 DB
Zurbrugg, Chris 1983-'87 QB
Burgess, Fritz 1981-'83 DB
Bates, Brad 1978-'80 DB
Paciorek, Jim 1978-'79 TE
Bettis, Roger 1975-'77 QB
Casey, Kevin 1971-'74 QB
Schmitz, James E. 1969-'69 RB
Hoey, George 1966-'68 RB
Reid, Dorie 1963-'65 RB
Hood, Edward 1960-'62 RB

Total:

That's 26 players, of whom a third were quarterbacks. It seems it was a running back number in the '60s but the last RB to wear it was Ricky Powers. The one thing it's not is a receiver number--Roundtree and Landon Smith are the only WRs to wear it.

If you want to break it up by years, it's 30 seasons of QBs with 12 on, versus five seasons of receivers wearing it over that time period. It's a QB number.

the Glove

May 20th, 2012 at 10:49 AM ^

In my opinion numbers and positions really don't matter in college football. Forgodsakes look at Shawn Crabels number as a linebacker or Hawthorne's. Players just use them for tradition, like a wide receivers wearing numbers in the 80's.

RakeFight

May 20th, 2012 at 2:04 PM ^

I think you missed the point of those arguing what an important thread this is... 12 is less of a QB number than 7 (a "pure QB number"), and therefore this is a significant sign that DG will be playing other positions this year (even though there are no NCAA guidelines about what numbers are worn by what positions, and we already knew that DG will be used at more than just backup QB this year based upon listening to the coaches and watching practice).  The only way to know that would be to also analyze the history of the #7, and compare it to your data on #12.

Seth

May 20th, 2012 at 9:58 AM ^

Somebody on Twitter mentioned some of the fall freshmen are getting numbers too. We're shipping Hail to the Victors to the printer tomorrow at noon and are making our final changes today so if anyone has any confirmable information on this please post.

Seth

May 20th, 2012 at 5:37 PM ^

Update on this. At this point the athletic department will not confirm a number change other than Roundtree's to 21. Speculation seems to be coming entirely from Gardner changing his Twitter address. Unless something changes in the next 16 hours HTTV is going to print with him still at 7. If you have confirmation please let me know because I don't want the book to seem dated when people start getting it next month.

The Truth Hurts

May 20th, 2012 at 10:14 PM ^

DG has worn #7 his whole life.  The only reason why he is switching to #12 is because he will also be lining up at WR and DB  as well as QB.  So the switch is made because he and hawthorne will be on the field at the same time and that can not happen.

WestMichiganWo…

May 21st, 2012 at 12:24 AM ^

One other option I could see is that because of his size and athleticism, they might want him to play hail mary defense at ends of games or halfs like big time recievers like Calvin do. If this was the case, he might be on the field with hawthorne at the same time, meaning he cant be number 7. Just a theory.