Derek Dooley to Mizzou (OC)

Submitted by Mr Miggle on January 5th, 2018 at 6:49 PM

According to Bruce Feldman. Good news for anyone who wants to speculate about Fisch's future.


Mr Miggle

January 5th, 2018 at 7:46 PM ^

He's not giving Jedd or anyone else full control of the offense. Jedd wanted to be an OC and our job wasn't open. It looks like it may be now. There's nothing to apologize for. If Harbaugh wants Fisch back, he can offer him the OC job. It will still be a collaborative effort whoever gets the job. Just like it would have been if Jedd got it last year.

If Jedd thinks he can do better, that's fine. I'm not sure what other jobs he might be up for. Probably not many with close to the same pay.




January 5th, 2018 at 9:44 PM ^

Of course youth matters. To say it doesn’t is to say the Earth is flat.

Young WRs, young OL, three different starting QBs...the most experienced of which was bad under Fisch as well.

Does that excuse the play calling? No. I do think that the staff was dysfunctional this year. Too many cooks in the kitchen and the offense reflected that.

But youth was most definitely a huge factor in an offense that is complex and asks a lot of the players in it.


January 6th, 2018 at 12:04 AM ^

2015 passing S&P+ (Michigan): 17th

2016 passing S&P+ (Michigan): 29th

2017 passing S&P+ (UCLA): 27th

He's good as a passing coordinator (but maybe only good).  Not sure how you'd compare him to Drevno since he was passing coordinator and Drevno was running coordinator.  If you want to talk about how the passing game tanked this year, that's on Pep and Harbaugh more than Drevno.

Besides, your use of the phrase is wrong here.  We don't have perfectly good and are risking messing that up by trying to be perfect (like what would be the case if we tried to improve our MBB coaching).  We have bad right now, and what is bad is Pep and whatever Harbaugh is responsible for.  No one is denying that.  But since we have to bring someone new in, why not shoot for great, rather than settle for good (probably). Doing that doesn't risk losing good because we don't have good anyway.

Also, the only part of the offense that was a brutal mess that Fisch inherited was the QB situation and Harbaugh solved that admirably.  Fisch inherited two NFL WRs, Jake Butt, an experienced (if somewhat flawed) OL, and a solid RB committee.  It was a pretty good situation after Harbaugh got Rudock. 


January 10th, 2018 at 2:37 AM ^

From after Hokes last game until the Florida st bowl our offense was putting up nearly 40 ppg. Only Iowa (Indiana was snow and Okorn) looked like this years offense. People are seeing these NFL players now but I tell you before Jedd was passing coord Hoke did not have 2 NFL wide receivers. Its like saying Don Brown was handed all this NFL talent.If it was the Harbaugh touch where did it go?

We could do much much worse for a passing game coordinator. If you like the jump we made from game 1 to game 13 then by all means stay the course. Id take Jed and my chances of him having his first non top 30 passing game.

Mpfnfu Ford

January 6th, 2018 at 4:38 PM ^

We have a career's worth of evidence that Jedd Fisch is pretty much a replacement level pro style offensive coordinator. Not an incompetent, not a world beater. But because he left right before Michigan had to play a season with all underclassmen, people think he's a messiah. Very odd.

How did UCLA's offense look to y'all? You know, the team in the lesser division in a garbage conference with an NFL QB?


January 5th, 2018 at 7:50 PM ^

Basically people thought that Fisch would look elsewhere after Chip Kelly took the UCLA HC job. He was rumored to go to Mizzou. Now that Dooley is confirmed as the OC there, some people think he may have interest back at UM with the supposed turnover with our offensive coaching staff.

Mr Miggle

January 6th, 2018 at 7:36 PM ^

What if he was our 2nd choice and Roman was the 1st? There are other scenarios where he becomes our 1st choice among available candidates. No real way for us to know.

It fits with the timing so far. Missouri was widely expected to hire Fisch a couple of weeks ago. They waited and then hired someone else. It's possible the delay was because they gave Jedd some time to decide. Roman just made a deal with the Ravens. We're hiring assistants but haven't announced an OC. It seems like that's the spot we'd want to fill 1st.


January 5th, 2018 at 8:09 PM ^

I don't see Fisch coming back either but given the choice of unemployment  or employment  I would choose the latter hopefully Fisch sees it that way and Harbaugh reaches out to him


January 5th, 2018 at 9:57 PM ^

I will never forgive Fisch for stealing Asiasi.. unless he comes back then I would probably forgive him.

I will say I heard Jed is a candidate for the Arizona job, it was a random dude JT the Brick was interviewing on the radio but the guys seemed to know his shit, take that for what it's worth.


January 6th, 2018 at 7:44 AM ^

As much as I’d like to see it, I’d be shocked if he ever came back. Coaches are just like us in that they want to show progress on their resumes and coming back to do the same job wouldn’t necessarily show progress.


January 6th, 2018 at 9:04 AM ^

to be the OC version of Don Brown at DC ?  Absolutely not IMO.  Don Brown was doing it for years before coming to UM. Therefore, he is no, as of yet, the kind of guy you hand over complete control of one side of the ball to, even if brought in wit han OC title.

Art Briles (ignoring the slime an corruption), Chip Kelly, Lane Kiffin (yes, it feels crazy to type that), are the level of offensive minds you can bring in and justify handing the keys over to on offense (allowing them to completely run their own show).  Jed has not yet reached that status yet IMO.

I also hear Borges and DeBord are available.