March 27th, 2018 at 10:29 AM ^

Why do we have to bring Harbaugh into this.. Give Beilein his own spotlight, he deserves it..Harbaugh has already been crucified enough the past 5 months. 

Chalky White

March 27th, 2018 at 12:18 PM ^

Jim Rome did the same thing in his CBS Sports Minute. That wasn't for clicks. I think they are doing it because they know he can't really retaliate. I know Harbaugh is aware of these shots people are taking at him. He is classy enough to allow the spotlight to stay on the basketball team.


March 27th, 2018 at 1:33 PM ^

JB and the basketball program are a success story.  Leave it at that.  It was done the right way and because of that it didn't happen overnight.

JH is taking the same approach.   I'm happy about this and beleive we will see the same kind of results.   He will win and will win in a way we can be proud of unlike <insert name of football program here>.

Other news should make it abundantly clear why we want this.

SoDak Blues

March 27th, 2018 at 10:32 AM ^


In his 11th year, Beilein is in his second Final Four. Harbaugh, well, about that. Char isn't the only one who has noticed Harbaugh hasn't gotten Michigan football to a championship level yet.

Not that JB isn't a fantastic coach, but this is comparing apples to oranges. Operative words being: "In his 11th year".


March 27th, 2018 at 11:22 AM ^

Agree that the article is dumb and we should leave JH alone for now, but football and basketball don't have equivalent turnaround times and Beilein walked into a much worse condition.

Harbaugh's second year had Michigan's largest NFL draft class ever, none of whom he recruited. Beilein had no such advantages. 


March 27th, 2018 at 11:30 AM ^

Beilein inherited Manny Harris, DeShawn Sims and Epke Udoh from Amaker.  Harris/Sims were instrumental in him making the tournament in his second year.  And then - in contrast to Harbaugh - he returned almost everyone for year 3 but the team inexplicably faltered to 15-17.  His third-year struggles were harder to understand than Harbaugh's, if anything.






March 27th, 2018 at 1:43 PM ^

Which speaks to the coaching job of Beilein. You’re leaving out a few things, Udoh wasn’t their the 2nd year and Belein basically went with a lineup that had a young Zach Novak playing the PF. The fact that he got that squad within minutes of upsetting Oklahoma, might go down as one of his greatest coaching jobs at Michigan. The next year Manny & Peedi thought a little to highly of themselves and were not all in like they were the previous season and the squad struggled. The next season he Darius Morris led the squad and the train has been chugging along since. And that’s not even getting to the fact that Belein did all that with much less. At that time he was fighting for practice time in Crisler with the women’s team, gymnastics and wrestling. Plus he didn’t have nearly the money allocated to his staff as Jim does. Harbaugh has done well, but his built-in advantages far outweigh the situation Beilein walked into.

Hemlock Philosopher

March 27th, 2018 at 11:54 AM ^

Football is different though - imagine what it would be like if the loss to NW or LSU this year prevented us from making the "playoff" and instead we got a nice little "bowl" game with FSU for nothing but a handsome check....

With that class, Harbaugh was some terrible refs and inches away from playing in the B1G CC and possibly CFP in 2016. 


March 27th, 2018 at 12:45 PM ^

football and basketball don't have equivalent turnaround times

I agree, but I'd think football has a longer turnaround time because it tends to take guys longer to develop and because it takes more guys. As we've seen a DPJ, Brandon Peters, Aubry Solomon level recruit takes time to develop. Although JH had two top top classes in a row, they were still 8-5 last year. I'd guess if you had 2 top 10 classes in a row in basketball you'd be sitting pretty in year 3.

Robbie Moore

March 27th, 2018 at 10:38 AM ^

Six years to get to his first final four after taking over a crummy program. Harbaugh is three years in after taking over a crummy program. These two facts stare Dodd in the face. But he never bothers to connect them. It's either that Dodd... 

1. Is too stupid to connect two dots or

2. He never lets facts get in the way of a "hot" take.

Our both...



March 27th, 2018 at 11:07 AM ^

There are also more moving parts in a football program which means more wrinkles to iron out. 

Using the military as an analogy, Beilein's job would be like commanding a platoon while Harbaugh's job is more akin to commanding a company. 


And does anyone else kind of feel like putting all football talk on hold for a week?  As much as I love hearing about the football team, it all feels like an unwanted distraction at the moment.  

yossarians tree

March 27th, 2018 at 2:09 PM ^

I actually find Rome's show pretty amusing at times, but he lost me when he turned on Harbaugh. Normally Rome kisses his guests asses but the people who won't come on his show or that he doesn't like he just rips mercilessly every chance he gets. Its pretty gutless because he would never say it to their faces--we're talking about guys like Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Barry Bonds. It will be interesting to see what he has to say when Jim wins a NC.


March 27th, 2018 at 11:36 AM ^

Define "championship level"...  If he thinks Michigan football wasn't playing 'championship level football' after taking OSU to OT in Columbus in 2016, he's dumber than I'd already given him credit for.  And that's not even mentioning the outstanding coaching job he did to have a lead on FSU with 1 minute to go after losing his Hiesman finalist minutes before the game and an AA TE in the 1st quarter.  How UM was even in it was amaizing, how they had the lead that late was coaching.

Dodd = asshat.  Always has been, always will be.


March 27th, 2018 at 10:35 AM ^

Out in full force..."disappointing season if they lose Saturday" (most wins in school history).."No Mich fan base" (filled MSG during BTT & pro Mich crowd in LA)...Fuck every one of you Michigan hating cock suckers..I am taking no shit from any of you jealous pricks.


March 27th, 2018 at 11:42 AM ^

The only people cheering for Michigan Saturday evening will be Michigan fans.  The rest of the nation will be wildly cheering for Cinderella (Especially Nova and Kansas fans).

But once we smash that glass slipper, most of the nation will be for us Monday night.  Nobody wants to see the East Coast (Nova) win, and Kansas is 'always there'.

Human Torpedo

March 27th, 2018 at 12:11 PM ^

It definitely does appear Michigan football is more universally hated in this country than Michigan basketball. I chalk that up in part to our blueblood arrogance in football despite one national title in 70 years, having a polarizing head coach now in contrast to Lloyd Carr and Brady Hoke for example, among other things 


March 27th, 2018 at 10:36 AM ^

The only reason he wrote that is so a link to the story would appear on Michigan blogs and on Michigan twitter, generating clicks and thereby making this Dodd individual look more impressive to his bosses.

It's a well-known formula among the national press, and we keep playing into it.  Let's try not to help Dodd achieve his goal here.


March 27th, 2018 at 10:39 AM ^

I believe I said it on another thread: Michigan fans are the easiest troll bait on the internet. Here comes an entore thread of how lousy and worthless another member of the media is--yet the shit like this keeps ending up on this board over and over and over and over agian and again and again.


March 27th, 2018 at 1:27 PM ^

It's the same with almost every fanbase.

Almost every fanbase thinks it's different. In reality, it's not. 

Except for Texas A&M and Michigan State. They are a little different. Angry Napoleon complexes with those two due to Texas/Michigan being in the same state and getting more attention. Admittedly this has softened with Michigan State due to its football success this past decade. 




March 27th, 2018 at 10:40 AM ^

Harbaugh hasn't done anything remotely close like he did the first 2 years in terms of being in the spotlight; last time was probably about this time last year for the Rome trip, since then it's largly been crickets. There used to be a Harbaugh story near everyday posted over at /r/cfb, but i can't even remember the last time I saw one. It's extremely petty IMO to bring up Harbaugh out of the blue, let alone when it's been over year since he's been plastered all over the media for "talking" or self-promotion or whatever. Grow up.


March 27th, 2018 at 12:18 PM ^

I think the last real publicity thing he did was jump off the 10M diving platform during the bye week before MSU.  But generally he's been really quiet since Rome. 

The best thing JH can do is win.  I will support hime eaither way, but once he wins a championship he can tell all the haters to shove it up their ass.




March 27th, 2018 at 10:47 AM ^

What kind of a fucking moron would trade a Final Four for a potential upgrade at quarterback. That would be like trading in $1000 for a 10% chance to win $1000.