[DEFFF NOT OT]LIONS APPRECIATION THREAD

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SOMETIMES SOMETHING SO AMAZING HAPPENS IN SPORTS THAT IT IS RELEVANT TO ALL DISCUSSIONS AND THEREFORE IS CERTAINLY NOT!!!!! OT.

GENTLEMEN AND THE HANDFUL OF LADIES AROUND HERE BRAVE ENOUGH TO WADE THROUGH THE SEA OF BO AND CHEETO DUST, TONIGHT THE WORLD BORE WITNESS TO THE MOST SELF ACTUALIZING EVENT IN ALL OF SPORTS HISTORY. YOUR [AND TODAY THE LIONS ARE EVERYONE'S TEAM] DETROIT FOOTBALL LIONS AFTER YEARS OF STRIFE AND STRUGGLE HAVE FINALLY CROSSED INTO ENLIGHTENMENT. YEARS OF BLOWN CALLS, POOR PERFORMANCES, WASTED HALL OF FAMERS, HAVE ALL COME CLOSE TO THE IDEAL THAT IS THE LIONS, BUT TODAY THE STRUGGLE HAS ENDED. 

BEHOLD! THE EPITOME OF WHAT IT IS TO BE A DETROIT FOOTBALL LION

SHALL WE NEVER LIVE IN FEAR OF WHO WE ARE! MAY WE ALL ASPIRE TO THE BRAVERY OF THIS TEAM! FORWARD DOWN THE FIELD MY FRIENDS! FORWARD DOWN THE FIELD!!

CompleteLunacy

October 6th, 2015 at 7:56 AM ^

Quite frankly I don't know why a fumbled ball in the Endzone is automatically a touchback if it goes out of bounds, and the other team gets it. Actually it's kind of arbitrary...had the ball gone out of bounds at the half yard line, the Lions retain possession, but in the endzone they do not. It's completely arbitrary when you think about it. Why should the other team just get the ball back without a clear fumble recovery? Just spot the ball where the fumble occurred, and play on. So "deserves" does not enter into the equation at all.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

October 6th, 2015 at 9:47 AM ^

I think I'd apply a different definition of "deserve" there.  Do you deserve 15 yards when you throw an incomplete pass and roughing the passer is called?  Most people would say yes.  Opponent breaks a rule, you absolutely deserve to reap the benefits of that rule breach.  I don't see a difference just because the rule is obscure.

The Barwis Effect

October 6th, 2015 at 6:45 AM ^

The worst thing about this is that it takes the heat off of Pad Statsford and the Lions offense for only producing 3 points.

And let's be honest about this. There's no guarantee they would have won the game even if they did get the call. More than likely, they wouldn't have been able to punch it in from the one and would have lost in OT after settling for a FG. After all, this is the Lions we are talking about.



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snarling wolverine

October 6th, 2015 at 6:53 AM ^

I'm with Brian on this . . . how can people be diehard Lion fans? I can see watching them for pure entertainment value, but to be as invested in them as with Michigan football, that's just bizarre to me.

CompleteLunacy

October 6th, 2015 at 8:02 AM ^

I mean, at some point you have to actually win something to even HAVE a bandwagon. Then we can really talk about those who jump off the bandwagon. What do the Lions have? I mean, woo how they made the playoffs that one time. I had a foot on the bandwagon....then Drew Bree's scorched them and I took my foot off.

I'm a diehard Red Wings fan, even if they've been rather blah the last 5 Years. That's because they have a recent history of success.

MGoCombs

October 6th, 2015 at 11:37 AM ^

Really not trying to sound like an elitist dick, but there weren't really very many Sparty fans that weren't in some way tied to the school. The Save-A-Lot Spartan (if you will) football fan is more of a product of recent success.

10 years ago I didn't know anyone that actually cared about Spartan football that didn't go there. There were a lot of basketball fans that just didn't pay attention to football and all of a sudden fell out of the woodwork in the last 6-7 years.

I guess you could say the same about Michigan basketball though.



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snarling wolverine

October 6th, 2015 at 6:54 AM ^

I'm with Brian on this . . . how can people be diehard Lion fans? I can see watching them for pure entertainment value, but to be as invested in them as with Michigan football, that's just bizarre to me.

LSAClassOf2000

October 6th, 2015 at 7:12 AM ^

You know, I'll probably always be a Lions fan - I grew up one and I am weirdly loyal like that, but yet I find my feelings towards them much more complex and considered when it comes to the subject of losing. Like someone said above, when Michigan loses, I feel genuinely awful and sometimes I feel that way for days. When the Lions lose, it is very easy to analyze and compartmentalize, or rather, it is far easier to do than when Michigan loses. 

Maybe not everyone does this, but I approach the Lions and my Lions fandom with a vastly different mindset as a fan, given their history and because of game-changing calls like last night that don't go their way historically, than I do my Michigan fandom.

Candor for Sale

October 6th, 2015 at 7:20 AM ^

Well put. I just add it to the pantheon of "almost there but not quite" Lions games by placing it somewhere on the Spectrum of Eternal Futility (from 'Slight Head-Shaking' Futile to 'Hysterical Laughter Inducing' Futile) for the sake of comparison to past games that have ended in a similar fashion, and move on.

uferfan

October 6th, 2015 at 7:32 AM ^

The best way to sum up being both like me is like watching two different movies every weekend in the fall: you get to watch a drama on Saturdays and a comedy on Sundays.

Lampuki

October 6th, 2015 at 7:34 AM ^

My kids are finding out as I did as a kid sin the 70s and 80s that you can be a lions fan you just have to have a second team. For me it was the Steelers. For them it's the Patriots and ugh SeaChickens. But when they meet you root for the hometown team.



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Mabel Pines

October 6th, 2015 at 7:47 AM ^

but Tom Lewan lived in West Quad with my husband and they are better than the Pistons.  That call or lack of call was just brutal.  Like Armando Gallaraga brutal.

Bailejor

October 6th, 2015 at 8:03 AM ^

They had this lions fandom debate on 97.1 yesterday. It came down to why would you watch when they're putting a horrible product on the field. Sorry to quote Mike valenti, but my point is there's a good reason for it. Experimental analysis of behavior tells us that reinforcement distributed on a variable ratio schedule produces high resistance to extinction. The Lions win infrequently, therefore people continue to watch. There are other things at work, but this is the same thing that cause gambling addiction.

Brian Griese

October 6th, 2015 at 8:38 AM ^

three quirks in the rulebook in the past 6 seasons and may, in the future, have 4 rules named after them:

2010: Calvin Johnson rule for process of the catch

2012: Jim Schwartz Rule: Challenges a scoring play (illegal).  15 yard penalty and the play can no longer be reviewed (since changed)

2014: (Proposed) Brandon Pettigrew Rule: Pass Intereference calls can be reviewed

2015: Calvin Johnson rule (part 2) for batting a ball

Space Coyote

October 6th, 2015 at 8:52 AM ^

That both the Lions and the Browns lost in the most Lions or Browns fashion this week.

The Lions, as seen above, drove down the field, were going into the end zone, only to fumble the ball right before crossing the goal line.

The Browns made a brilliant comeback, everyone had their hopes up, the San Diego marches down the field and into field goal range. Only to miss the field goal... but the Browns were offsides, and then the Charges hit the subsequent field goal to win.

This is what it means to be NFL fans in this area of the country.

McSomething

October 6th, 2015 at 8:56 AM ^

Michigan is good. Lions suck. Now all I need is for Sparty to fall back into the abyss and my football world will be back as it should be; back as I new it.

Durham Blue

October 6th, 2015 at 9:03 AM ^

Yes, that play especially hurts when you have $50 on over 11-1/2 points in the fourth quarter.  Of course that TD would've not only put the Lions ahead late, but it also would've won me my bet.  I do think there is only one NFL team that can obliterate all your hopes on one play like that.  And it is the Lions.

jmblue

October 6th, 2015 at 9:04 AM ^

I'm from the Detroit area, but I just laugh at it all. You think the Lions have found every possible way to lose, and yet they somehow outdo themselves year after year. At some point you have to embrace it.

InterM

October 6th, 2015 at 1:14 PM ^

We're talking about a team that has won ONE playoff game in my lifetime, and I'm no spring chicken.  You can't just stumble into being that bad -- you have to earn it, particularly in a league that is designed to achieve parity.  As you say, the only case for being a Lions "fan" is to embrace the one thing they have consistently excelled at -- finding new ways to lose.  To root for them to win is like hoping for incompetence to be rewarded.

Wolverine fan …

October 6th, 2015 at 9:37 AM ^

watching the end of the game, and I looked at my wife and said "watch, they are going to blow this somehow". At that point it was 2nd down, and it looked like the worst that could happen was a field goal for the tie. Being a lifelong Lions fan, I knew all too well what was about to take place. As the ball was snapped on third down I mumbled "Just don't turn it over." Calvin caught the ball and lunged for the end zone; my wife tapped me on the back as if to say, "See?! they are going to win!" Little did she know, this is a team of destiny. A team that hired and retained Matt Millen. A team that drove their greatest player of all time say: "The culture of losing in the Lions organization was too much to deal with". As the ball was fumbled away, I watched the replay in a familiar, somber fashion and shook my head slowly as I stared at the ceiling, angry that I had bothered to watch the game at all. So I flipped over to BTN and watched and listened to the analysts talk about the Wolverines, and drifted off to sleep in relative comfort knowing that there was at least one team I could watch this season with high hopes for the future.

mgobleu

October 6th, 2015 at 10:01 AM ^

I watched this all happen last night, and I only now after reading this thread realize how amazing my reaction was when CJ dropped the ball; I must've let out half a chuckle, turned the tv off, rolled over in bed and went to sleep. If that happened to Michigan I would have been up all f-ing NIGHT hyperventilating, trying to make sense of it, reading rule books, castigating imaginary referees in my living room, and causing irreparable damage to my liver. This barely moved the needle for me, which honestly, is truly amazing if you think about it. They can't even look forward to breaking the 0-16 record either, cuz they've already fucked that up for themselves too.

FanNamedOzzy

October 6th, 2015 at 10:48 AM ^

Could you imagine how much Harbaugh would be freaking out if that play happened to his team? He obviously knows rules inside out, so he would have been absolutely livid with the no-call.

UMProud

October 6th, 2015 at 4:45 PM ^

Unfortunately as long as the Lions sell tickets well the product will never change. We need a new Michigan NFL team...bring back the Michigan Panthers!

Luckey1083

October 9th, 2015 at 3:35 PM ^

And I literally had friends that aren't from Michigan texting me immediately after the game ended asking if I was ok...  I know that I shouldn't be too surprised about these things, they've been happening for the whole of my 32 years on this Earth to the Lions.  But yes I was still upset that we got hosed AGAIN by the refs.  The only good that can come of this is if it can rally the squad to reel off 4 in a row before the bye.  I know its a fat chance, but hell a guy can hope.  I always tell myself that all this bullshit will be worth it when (if...???) we finally win the Super Bowl...  Wishful thinking I know, but I'm still holding out faith that one of these years we can break thru.