Days Later: State of Michigan Basketball...Thoughts?
Now that the storm is over and some people have had a couple days to come down from meltdown status...I wanted to see how fellow MGoUser's felt about the basketball team, the season thus far and the remainder of the season.
Are we still as confident? What would you change? What are your thoughts?
We've got a few more days until the next game, so...discuss.
February 14th, 2013 at 6:02 PM ^
Illinois curb-stomped us AT CRISLER to end the regular season that year. It was nothing but doom and gloom entering the NCAA tourney. How quickly things changed.
February 14th, 2013 at 6:15 PM ^
In fact, didn't IL beat us twice in the regular season? Then we beat IL in the final four to get us to the finals.
Not many of us were expecting that. I think that IL was a big favorite.
February 14th, 2013 at 3:35 PM ^
the team is soft and I don't see anyone trying to be tougher...both mentally and physically. I am most disapointed in the lack of offensive plays...they need to do more than run pick n rolls w/ burke. Run some staggered screens for Hardaway or Staskus (I assume he can shoot more than 3's and dunks).
February 14th, 2013 at 3:43 PM ^
i agree, guys like Stauskas are too good of shooters to be standing in corner and waiting to jack up a shot. run some sets for him off one or two screens like we use to see with Rip Hamiltion.
February 14th, 2013 at 4:15 PM ^
Is there anyone who, at the beginning of the season, would have been "disappointed" with a 21-4 record at this point? Young teams always hit a rough spot, when coaches adjust to them. Now, they have a few weeks left to adjust to the adjustments.
The losses were in the four toughest places to win in the Big Ten. This team is fine. It is much better to hit the rough spot now than in March.
February 14th, 2013 at 4:20 PM ^
Remember Titanic? Our 4 game tough stretch went about as well as Titanic did.
That said, I think a bold prediction is to go 6-0 to finish the season. We are 29-1 at Crisler (FUUUUU PURDUE ON SENIOR DAY SRSL!?), so if we win the games we should (twice against PSU, Illinois, and @Purdue) then it's going to come down to the magic of Crisler.
I'm not quite sure what to think of the MSU matchup on the 3rd, originally I was expecting to split with them, home team winning each, but that was before their evisceration of our bball team when we were down 31 points or something stupid like that.
I'll say we drop 1 more game of the regular season, no conference title barring some pretty significant upsets (which, like, totally could happen Illinois/Indiana HALOL).
Final Record:
26-5 (13-5)
And you know what? That's not that bad at all, especially in what turned out to be a brutal, brutal Big Ten.
We're solidly a 2 seed for the tournament, and that's what really matters. Personally, I'm not all that interested in the Big Ten Tournament, despite the potentially awesome matchups, because we don't need to get beaten up right before going into the NCAA tournament (see our most recent 4 games to see how well our tired/beat up team does away from Crisler). Wouldn't even fret about an early exit from that.
The past 4 games have really taken a lot out of the other 21, we're in excellent shape, and JB deserves tons of credit for bringing us out of the crater of NCAA sanctions and the basement of the Big Ten. If we can sustain 25+ win seasons, who would complain about that?
February 14th, 2013 at 4:22 PM ^
Saw JMo at church last night praying for experience
February 14th, 2013 at 4:22 PM ^
Saw JMo at church last night praying for experience
February 14th, 2013 at 4:23 PM ^
Just realied I joined 2/22/2012 which i kinda cool
February 14th, 2013 at 4:36 PM ^
Great post at umhoops analyzing what's gone wrong.
http://www.umhoops.com/2013/02/14/whats-wrong-with-michigan/#more-42450
Bullets:
-Two point D has fallen off a cliff in past four games, 40% in first 8 B1G games vs. 54% in last 4. Reasons: Morgan injury, Stauskas being exposed.
-Offense has become too P&R focused. Scoring from transition and cutting have declined dramatically. This has most effected GRIII who gets most of his points from those two sources.
Diagnosis: Get Morgan healthy. Concentrate on getting rebounds because UM's impossible to stop in transition.
February 14th, 2013 at 4:42 PM ^
Beilein has Michigan ranked in the top 5 well into February with a squad that clearly isn't top 5 in terms of talent, experience, or depth. He's been playing with house money the entire season as far as I'm concerned. It was inevitable that the chickens would come home to roost at some point, but even the extent of it has been overstated. We lost a competitive road game to the #1 team in the country. We lost another road game to a solid tourney-bound team on what was essentially a lucky shot. We beat Ohio. The loss at MSU was admittedly ugly, but with our level of inexperience (are there any other top 10 teams that play as many freshmen as we do?), we were bound to have one of those at some point. It sucks that it came against our biggest rival, but at least we have an opportunity to avenge it.
It looks like IU will run away with the B1G title, but without any true road games after the end of the regular season, I don't see any reason why we can't at least make some noise in the B1G tournament and the NCAA tournament.
February 14th, 2013 at 5:14 PM ^
February 14th, 2013 at 5:20 PM ^
You're right; maybe we are top 5 in terms of raw talent, but we're definitely not top 5 in terms of depth or experience.
February 14th, 2013 at 6:29 PM ^
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February 14th, 2013 at 9:38 PM ^
This stat should bring everyone off the ledge: of all the teams in contention for the B1G title, we're the only ones who haven't lost any games that we had no business losing. MSU and Wisconsin both lost to Minnesota. Wisconsin also lost to Iowa. OSU got blown out by Illinois. And Indiana had a meltdown in the last 3 minutes against Illinois that cost them the game.
The only game we lost that we arguably should have won was the game at Wisconsin. And when you lose a road game in overtime to a ranked team because of a half-court buzzer beater, there's not much more you can chalk that up to than "shit happens".
February 14th, 2013 at 6:30 PM ^
Was a kick in the balls. This team is the best Michigan team in many years with a ton of athletes. The thing that stands out in the losses has been the play of the freshman. McGary is the only one showing improvement at this point in the season. Blame that on the freshman wall, scouting, whatever you want but how they adjust and getting Jordan Morgan healthy will be key. Burke and Hardaway are established, it will come down to how far the youngsters can take them.
February 14th, 2013 at 7:37 PM ^
I'm not sure how far this team will go in March. I can stil see an Elite 8 appearance if things go well but at the same time could see us ousted in the Sweet 16 (MAYBE even second round to a bad match-up with a 8 or 7 seed). This team just has too many flaws. Many times those flaws are covered up by good-great play by Trey and THJ and some good "plays" here and there by other guys. But when our maing guys are shut down we have no back-up plan. A dirty-good defensive team, as we just saw (and saw against Ohio) could spell the end of the season for us.
GRIII is a bit of an issue. What people aren't realizing is how much of a role in the offense he hasn't been, even all season. He's put up good numbers through the fist 3/4 of the season BUT much of that came from transition, which isn't anything to sneeze at, and clean-up type-plays. His deficiency in the set offense shouldn't be mezmerizing. It shouldn't be this bad, either. The shots he took the other night were horrendous. He took a shot off a dribble at the free-throw line and he took a wide open three off a drive-and-dish. The shots were not confident in any way. What to do about that....
February 14th, 2013 at 8:24 PM ^
This team lacks the right DNA, plain and simple. They are talented but not the competitors they need to be in really big games against top opponents intent on beating us. That's particularly troublesome when you are probably the most despised school in the conference and everyone will be juiced for you.
We saw the ultimate proof of this in the State game. They are the ultimate competitors, and we had no answer for the emotion and hatred.
It starts at the top, and for all Beilein does right, he doesn't have the burning desire to win like Izzo, Crean, and Motta. Instead of getting pissed off and going up a player's ass when he needs to, he takes a drink of water or talks to them like they're a two year old that forgot to use the potty.
As a result, we'll lose more often than not when our rivals have comparable talent. And that will be most of the time.
February 14th, 2013 at 8:37 PM ^
February 14th, 2013 at 11:56 PM ^
Michigan State is still and will continue to be the better bball team in Michigan until Belien recruits better big men to match up with them. You can't continue to throw a small forward out there as your powar forwerd. We too small for the Spartens.