Chill the Hell Out

Submitted by Decatur Jack on

Guys, I know it sucks that we are 5-2, but seriously, everybody just needs to take a deep breath.

No one is getting fired. This is a very good staff that has tried to make it work with some broken pieces this year. How many people here predicted 8-4 before the season? A lot.

Does no one remember how bad things were during the Rodriguez years? Stop calling this the worst you've ever seen.

Seriously, calm the fuck down.

I will concede this: if Chris Balas was right about Brandon Peters (that he's proven to be a massive bust), then we're fucked. Otherwise, relax.

Crootin

October 22nd, 2017 at 1:08 PM ^

And we had a bye week to get ready against Sparty.  How'd that work out?  

 

Stop saying we have a backup QB by the way.  Harbaugh said O'Korn and Speight were neck and neck in preseason.  O'Korn got snaps vs Florida.  Speight looked terrible before he was injured anyway.  OKorn is not good, but it's not like we had a good or even competent offense before Speight got hurt.  Stahhhhp with the phoney excuses already.

Crootin

October 23rd, 2017 at 10:12 AM ^

Then we'll agree to disagree.  The stats don't support your opinion.

Speight DSR in 2017 64,64,63

Okorn DSR in 2017 75, 60, 44, PSU TBD

 

The eyeball test shows two QBs who are inaccurate, indecisive, and thow a lot of INTs.  Speight is more consistent I guess.  There isn't a MAJOR difference between the two, at least not in the context of other offensive problems.  Apparently Jim Harbaugh agrees as O'Korn got a series vs Florida and had a tight competition with Speight in the offseason, even though Speight had a full year of experience as a starter.  Speight is better, but not by an appreciable amount in 2017.

In conclusion, stop using this as an excuse for the putrid offense.  We didn't go from "amazing starter" to "inept backup".  

Brohio

October 22nd, 2017 at 3:05 PM ^

To UM, 9 million a year is nothing...but as a public relations point, it's everything. The money is the reason your recruits and their families are waking up to national media articles and stories that Jim Harbaugh is overrated. The Jim Harbaugh hire was an emotional hire, but a good one. If Michigan would have paid Harbaugh for what he was, a damn good football coach with tons of promise and a cultural impact that has gotten extremely close but has never been able to fully get the job done as of yet, there wouldn't be such a negative national narrative around the Michigan program right now. But Michigan paid him like he was Nick Saban. That understandably comes with some conditions.you don't pay that kind of money for 10 win seasons. The best analogy I can think of is imagine you needed your roof fixed and I was the most expensive guy in town and you hired me...but then you found out other guys were getting roofs done faster and more efficiently than I did. You'd be pissed and the reason you'd be pissed was the money. BUT this leaves Harbaugh with an absolute golden opportunity. Take a pay cut. Would be the absolute best PR move in CFB history. He could use the "Michigan Man" narrative and say that he hasn't earned the money and that at Michigan you have to earn everything you get. That team would be ready to run through a brick wall for him and I think it would totally neutralize the totally irrational fan expectations that come along with a 9 mil a year salary. As an Ohio State fan, I would not want to face a Michigan team if Harbaugh took a pay cut and started getting hungry instead of the obvious mutual disdain the fan base and Jim mutually seem to have for each other at this point.

Brohio

October 22nd, 2017 at 3:05 PM ^

To UM, 9 million a year is nothing...but as a public relations point, it's everything. The money is the reason your recruits and their families are waking up to national media articles and stories that Jim Harbaugh is overrated. The Jim Harbaugh hire was an emotional hire, but a good one. If Michigan would have paid Harbaugh for what he was, a damn good football coach with tons of promise and a cultural impact that has gotten extremely close but has never been able to fully get the job done as of yet, there wouldn't be such a negative national narrative around the Michigan program right now. But Michigan paid him like he was Nick Saban. That understandably comes with some conditions.you don't pay that kind of money for 10 win seasons. The best analogy I can think of is imagine you needed your roof fixed and I was the most expensive guy in town and you hired me...but then you found out other guys were getting roofs done faster and more efficiently than I did. You'd be pissed and the reason you'd be pissed was the money. BUT this leaves Harbaugh with an absolute golden opportunity. Take a pay cut. Would be the absolute best PR move in CFB history. He could use the "Michigan Man" narrative and say that he hasn't earned the money and that at Michigan you have to earn everything you get. That team would be ready to run through a brick wall for him and I think it would totally neutralize the totally irrational fan expectations that come along with a 9 mil a year salary. As an Ohio State fan, I would not want to face a Michigan team if Harbaugh took a pay cut and started getting hungry instead of the obvious mutual disdain the fan base and Jim mutually seem to have for each other at this point.

FrankMurphy

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:03 PM ^

We're not 'Bama, nor should we even want to be 'Bama. 'Bama is a football factory that happens to have a university attached to it. It's located in a part of the country where elementary schools are named after football coaches. We simply don't have that kind of culture in Michigan.

I Like Burgers

October 22nd, 2017 at 10:29 AM ^

I think most of the frustration is people coming to grips with that. People can see there's no talent on offense, development of players has been slower than expeced on the offensive side of the ball, and our coaches aren't as infalliable as they once were.  And not only that, there haven't been any flashes of talent on the offense to make you feel good about players putting it all together for a monster 2018 season.

So while a lot of people thought this would be a 9-3 or 8-4 type season and felt like 2018 would be "The Year", the future now looks a whole lot murkier than it once did.  And that's frustrating.

I Like Burgers

October 22nd, 2017 at 10:46 AM ^

Not trying to be a dick or anything, but who do you have as talent on this offense? Like players that you legit think could be all-Big Ten next season.  Guys I could see taking a step forward on offense next season are Higdon, Black, and Onwenu.  All three of those guys have shown flashes of talent and future potential.  I want to put DPJ in that category too, but there honestly hasn't be a lot of flash there. Just looks super raw.

Anyone else is stuck in redshirt land, and I'm not going to call someone a talent if they haven't even played yet. Because players that turns into a star as a redshirt freshman are RARE.

I Like Burgers

October 22nd, 2017 at 11:19 AM ^

I'm with you on Black and Higdon, but I forgot Higdon is a junior.  So he's not neccesarily young.

I wouldn't say Gentry is a talent.  He only has 8 catches on the season, after all.  Looks like a solid #2 TE.  Which leads me to McKeon...I forgot about him.  He's the second leading receiver on the team (18 catches), is a sophomore, and does look like a legit talent.

Clarence Boddicker

October 22nd, 2017 at 5:25 PM ^

Not sure how you can predict who will be a star (All-Big 10) nearly a year in advance. Talent and stardom are different things. DPJ is talented, but isn't a star. We're halfway through the season and you're ready to throw in the towel on 2018. Our recruiting classes will pay dividends but that takes time. There are growing pains being suffered now for a bright future. So why don't you step away from the computer and have a burger since you like them. Do something else you like. Watch a great film. Listen to some music. Start drinking again. Jerk off to some high-quality porn. Try to enjoy life, and the idea of a young team improving with experience.

noiseingeneral

October 22nd, 2017 at 11:36 AM ^

Mark Dantonio has been able to recruit the players he wanted for the last 10 years. They may not be highly rated players, but they fit the system that MSU has. When one graduates, another one can step up and take his place. That's what we need here, but we are not far enough along for that to happen yet.

Crootin

October 22nd, 2017 at 11:49 AM ^

I do agree with this.  But he has been forced to start freshman and even some walk ons all over the place.  That's not part of his plan.  Historically he never did that.  Yet he still finds a way to win.  Might be good coaching.  I see little evidence of that for us on the offensive side of the ball.  What system are we building?  What is our identity?  NFL-lite?

ijohnb

October 22nd, 2017 at 10:19 AM ^

don’t need endless “chill out” and “get some perspective” posts. We got our ass kicked. Whenever a team gets absolutely drubbed it a prime time game, there is going to be angst. Last night was really ugly, and the coaching staff deserves some heat. We look worse than the worst of predictions coming into the season. Nobody is firing anybody, but the play and coaching this season have been perspective-altering for sure. Fans are going to be pissed this week. It is what it is.

noiseingeneral

October 22nd, 2017 at 11:06 AM ^

Firing Drevno isn't going to be the magical fix for this offense that a lot of people on this blog believe it will be. The problem with our offense is the inability for the players to execute the plays, not the plays themselves. If we were to fire Drevno, it would further set back the offense's development. The constant turnover of the offensive staff only made the RR and the Hoke years worse. I wouldn't like Peters to spend his time learning a whole new offensive system instead of focusing on being taught how to be a good quarterback by Harbaugh.

Maynard

October 22nd, 2017 at 11:43 AM ^

How about we stop trying to run an NFL system in college so that it isn't so hard to have some turnover because I see teams like OSU bringing in different offensive guys coming off of successful years. Alabama has done this too. Let's not act like it all depends on continuity. The entire college system is based on change and fluid movement of people in and out of the university. 

umchicago

October 22nd, 2017 at 11:44 AM ^

has to go.  we are now on year 6 of piss poor offensive lines.  he was supposed to cure that first and foremost.  now he is the main playcaller, as far as we know.  the playcalling has gotten more vanilla with each succeeding year.

so get rid of drevno.  let frey coach the OL, at least he has a history of developing OL.

get someone like fisch back here, or fisch himself.

His Dudeness

October 22nd, 2017 at 10:19 AM ^

People don't like watching kids learn and grow. They want finished product robot football. Michigan is the youngest team in big boy football and we are still top-25. Remember when Verlander was a rookie and he didn't have a pick-off move and he had a pitch and a half and he won maybe half his starts? Then we watched him learn one of the best pick-off moves for a right then he learned a couple more pitches. Then he won the Cy - Young and then the MVP and then some playoff games. It's more fun to watch a guy grow and become successful rather than just picking up a Kenny Rogers. Enjoy the process, folks. It makes life worth living.