Ali G Bomaye

September 11th, 2013 at 1:48 PM ^

Sorry, I missed that.  I looked on the Board and it hadn't been posted yet.  I think mgo.licio.us is far enough down the page that it doesn't really catch the eye.

Also, not that this is the reason I missed it, but mgo.licio.us doesn't show up on the MGoBlog rss feed any more.

evenyoubrutus

September 11th, 2013 at 1:52 PM ^

The key here is that "chicken" is clearly a statement of opinion. I'm not an attorney but unfortunately at an old job there was a slander lawsuit by a higher up and a very important distinction is when someone's opinion is stated vs someone making a statement as though it is fact. If you said "my boss seems like the kind of guy who would cheat on his wife" you have not committed a litigious offense. If you sent an email to a coworker stating "my boss cheated on his wife" and there were proof that you knew this information to be false, you would be guilty of libel (as it is written word) and if it were spoken as office gossip it could be considered slander in a court of law. Therefore, considering Hoke said in a press conference that Notre Dame was "chickening out" it would not be a libelous case, but one of slander and because he was clearly speaking his opinion and not a statement of fact known to be false, there would be no case. However as I said I am not a lawyer so I could be completely wrong about that. Also, this is incredibly stupid.

Erik_in_Dayton

September 11th, 2013 at 2:08 PM ^

There is a long line of case law regarding slander, libel, and the questioning of someone's courage dating back to an 1818 Supreme Court case, Hyram Almquist v. Ustes Korhonen, in which the court ruled that Korhonen, a fish trainer, could not be guilty of slander by virtue of having called Almquist, a travelling haberdasher, a "yellow-bellied Hurri (a Finnish slur against Swedes)" because there was no way to quantify bravery or its lackthereof, thus making any comment on one's general bravery a matter of opinion only.  The court also noted that Almquist seemed like a pretty big wuss and that - this being a less enlightened age - it didn't like Swedes either. 

Wolverines Dominate

September 11th, 2013 at 1:59 PM ^

Obviously the chicken thing would be a non-issue had ND won this game, so it's incredibly clear that the person who wrote that is just mad that his team lost and wants to do anything possible to get back at Michigan.

Rocking Chair

September 11th, 2013 at 2:06 PM ^

They should be honored that we consider them members in good standing of the Irish Society of Poultry Fanciers.  They have a noble Mission Statement:

"The object of the Irish Society of Poultry Fanciers is to encourage and promote the preservation, improvement and protection of all breeds of poultry and waterfowl in keeping with breed standards, through advice and education in the use of good genuine poultry practices and disease control."

http://www.irishpoultrysociety.com/

 

Indiana Blue

September 11th, 2013 at 2:13 PM ^

actually used the term "chickened out" ... which is totally different than actually calling ND "chickens".  Beyond me though ... its a great opportunity for attorneys to argue this in a court of law ... because what else can they do ...  /s

Go Blue!

CLord

September 11th, 2013 at 3:13 PM ^

What's the etymology of 'chicken' anyway?  Is it because chickens are hard to catch and run away when you try to catch them and that means that when something tries to run away rather than be caught it like a chicken and since cowards run away then cowards are like chickens who run away?

Weird because pretty much every animal smaller than humans, other than cats and dogs, runs away from humans when they approach.  Wonder why chickens got the distinction.  I guess because humans typically don't want to actually catch mice or squirrels, but they do want to catch chickens to cut their heads off and eat them. 

Makes sense as to why you  also hear 'scaredy cat' since humans sometimes want to hug cats but they tend to be independent and run away.  You never hear scaredy dog since dogs are all 'come at me bro' and want to be hugged as much as possible.

THen there's 'craven' which I had never heard of until reading Game of Thrones.  Man, the author sure overused the hell out of craven, never once deviating from that word choice across 5 books.  I mean mix it up man, toss in a coward, or scared or chicken or Fighting Irish in the mix...

blueohio

September 11th, 2013 at 3:27 PM ^

Notable performances[edit source | editbeta]

At the Oktoberfest Zinzinnati in CincinnatiOhio, on 20 September 2004, rock musician Vince Neil served as the Grand Marshall of the World's Largest Chicken Dance. The U.S. cable television channel VH1, in its compilation of the 40 Least Metal Moments panned this performance as the single least metal moment in Heavy Metal history.

The Chicken Dance is featured in Judson Laipply's Evolution of Dance.

In 2006, the Chicken Dance opened "Weird Al" Yankovic's polka medley "Polkarama!" from his album Straight Outta Lynwood.

On 13 November 2009, CIHT-FM played the Chicken Dance continuously until 389 Tickets for the CHEO Dream of a Lifetime were purchased at $US100 each, to support the Children's Hospital of Eastern Ontario.[6] This played for over 3 hours.

Giant Chicken in Byron Center, Michigan

In a fund raiser for Helen DeVos Children's Hospital, an attempt at the world's largest chicken dance record was held at Byron Center, Michigan, USA on 23 April 2010, at Jake's restaurant, the site of a giant plastic chicken sculpture.[7]

On 13 September 2010, two Swedes set out on a Chicken Dance Tour across Europe, the Middle East and Asia.[8]

On 7 September 2013, the Chicken Dance was played at Michigan Stadium as the Michigan Wolverines football team celebrated a 41-30 victory over historic rival Notre Dame to symbolize the decision of Notre Dame to "chicken out" of the rivalry.

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September 11th, 2013 at 3:32 PM ^

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MaizeAndBlueWahoo

September 11th, 2013 at 3:52 PM ^

Alright, fine.  I admit that I have knowledge that the statement that they are chickens is false.  It is a lie by omission.  I retract any statement that they are "chickens" and replace it with the much truer statement that they are "whiny chickens."

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

September 11th, 2013 at 6:15 PM ^

I think we've been over this.  Just ignore the stupid fish etymology, which is as true as the "fact" that shit stands for Ship High In Transit.   It's not our fault there's a fish that happens to have the same name.  (Besides, from what I hear, they're delicious game fish.)  Telling us to stop being the Hoos is like suggesting Michigan ditch the winged helmet.  Maybe more so, since the nickname is older than the helmet.

Also, start considering lacrosse and baseball major sports and you'll be fine.  It's how we cope.  Besides, it's not like the basketball team is that bad.  Football team will be bowling this year, too.

Yeoman

September 11th, 2013 at 4:13 PM ^

Not only is it literally true that Notre Dame is a skinless, boneless fowl, but they admit it themselves, as evidenced by this picture of Notre Dame on Toast posted as part of Subwaydomer's anti-preview of this year's ND/Temple game:

cheesesteak

They were a week early, obviously.

Yeoman

September 16th, 2013 at 4:31 PM ^

I'll have you both know that I love shit on a shingle. It's even better if you saute some mushrooms along with the chipped beef.

True comfort food--I try to have it at least a couple of times a month. Good thing I was never in the Army to learn to hate it.

StellaBlue

September 11th, 2013 at 4:21 PM ^

If the case makes it to the US Supreme Court on appeal they will find a bench that is 2/3 Catholic.  Not sure if any of them like ND football but let's hope they lose this imaginary case on the merits well before that.

LSAClassOf2000

September 11th, 2013 at 4:18 PM ^

It's difficult to believe that someone would even think that the "chicken" thing crossed that line, but then I have to remember which fanbase this is coming from and how deeply insecure they seem to be at their core of how the rest of the football world views them. At least some of the more sensible folks at NDNation told him it was a stupid idea. 

Shorty the Bea…

September 11th, 2013 at 4:55 PM ^

However, such a lawsuit would be a waste of time because in order to have legal grounds for slander and libel the accusation must be seen as a reasonable assumption.  While Domers are figuratively chickens, they are not close to literally being chickens as chickens have no right to file lawsuits in American courts.  Point proven easily.  This whole pecker-business was settled in the famous case Hustler vs. Falwell where Falwell sued the Magazine and Larry Flint for printing a fake interview where he confessed that he lost his virginity to his mother in an outhouse.  Falwell lost the suit in the US Supreme Court because it was not reasonable to assume that it was the truth.  Thus, we have the right to insult one another and make outlandish jokes in America today!  If Michigan called ND rape-cover-up artists then ND could sue the pants off Michigan (because it is reasonable to assume) and win unless Michigan could prove that ND covered up rapes.  Those chicken-fuckers..

BlueFordSoftTop

September 11th, 2013 at 5:02 PM ^

Zero chance That Trade School In South Bend can sustain a defamation action. The jab did not cause actual harm which is demonstrable, nor did it fall under the special categories. Let them bother to sue and Michigan will grind them into legal fodder for the books and the Chicken Ranch. Chickens. Yum. Happy to donate my time as a lawyer in the field to cluck Trade School chickens.