Chance Stewart to WMU, William White to Toledo

Submitted by Chi-Blue on April 19th, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Don't know if this has been posted on here as of yet, but one time Wisconsin commit Chance Stewart has decided to go the Western Michigan route. William White of Cass Tech decided to commit to Toledo as well. Both commits are listed on the Scout front page.

Both had BIG TEN offers, but chose to head to the MAC. Stewart still had an offer from Illinois, and White had an offer from Indiana. 




April 19th, 2013 at 1:05 PM ^

As a fellow Bronco, this is a huge get for them. BroncoBlitz has an article about highly rated players to sign at non-AQ schools, Stewart would be the highest rated player to ever sign with a MAC school. Pretty big deal, Fleck is doing some good things here in Kzoo. I'd put him on your up and coming coaches to watch list.


April 19th, 2013 at 1:09 PM ^

I feel it's worth mentioning ex-Bronco HC, Bill Cubit, is now the OC at Illinois. Not too surprising tho, due to the fact Cubit had a bad track record with MHSAA coaches. He often snubbed local kids in favor of FL kids, I know it didnt sit well with local area coaches.


April 19th, 2013 at 3:13 PM ^

I'm a WMU grad and I hated the way Cubit recruited.  He flat out ingored Michigan.  He would much rather recruit Illnios and Florida.  Basically if ANY kid from Miami Beach wanted to play college football, Cubit would offer him no matter how talented or what off the field issues there were.   Once in a while he hit a homerun (EJ Biggers and Louis Delmas) but mostly it was all bad news.


Stewart is a good fit At WMU.  He likes that its close to Sturgis, and he'll get a real chance to start early in his career

turd ferguson

April 19th, 2013 at 10:44 AM ^

Interesting. I'd speculate that they're holding places as they await better offers, but realistically those schools would probably find places for them on Signing Day. They'd also probably win starting jobs at those schools pretty early. Good for them. Hopefully they found situations they like.

turd ferguson

April 19th, 2013 at 10:53 AM ^

He's been highly rated by the recruiting services since the beginning (early four star). His offer list never matched the services' hype - including neither Mich nor MSU offering - but he committed to Wisconsin when Bielema offered. The post-Bielema Wisky staff apparently cut contact with him, which looks like their way of saying "please look elsewhere."


April 19th, 2013 at 10:47 AM ^

Honestly, while Illinois and Indiana play in a major conference, both are considered the bottom of the conference.  Zero chance of either of those schools playing in a B10 title game, winning the conference, going to a major bowl (and a chance of no bowl), or being relevant, so how much different would their B10 experience be from their MAC experience.  I can understand not wanting to spend 4 years at a school that is considered a cupcake game within its own (weak) conference.

At least in the MAC, both of those schools have a shot at competing for a conference championship and going to a decent middling bowl.  Winning your conference is still a big deal for a player, even if that conference is not a major one. 


April 19th, 2013 at 11:37 AM ^

Although Illinois and Indiana will probably never play for a Big Ten title while those guys are in school, they'll play in big games, and you typical big ten game is bigger than the MAC championship anyway. Outside of the NIU anomaly last year, MAC teams never go to big bowls, and it's difficult for them to go to any bowl at all.

If you go to a lower level Big Ten school, you'll play in a number of nationally televised games every year, you'll play in some of the biggest stadiums in the country and you'll get a far better education. And the playing time factor would only be negligibly different, most likely.


April 19th, 2013 at 12:25 PM ^

I hear your point re: playing in nationally telivised games and bigger stadiums more often at Illinois and Indiana.  That is a definite reason not to go to a MAC school.  However, in most of those games, they will be nationally telivised in bigger stadiums getting beaten, often badly.  Also, for a QB, not sure that I would want to play against Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Nebraska and even Northwestern with an Indiana / Illinois OL protecting me.  I would want to play in a situation where the OL and DLs are approximately on par, so that I wasn't running for my life and could showcase my abilities.

Also, re: playing in big games in the B10, the problem with that is that the game is usually only big for the team that you are playing, and not for you, if you are at Indiana and Illinois. 

Re: education, I can't argue with your point. 

In general, though, I think that all of your points are pretty fair, and I think that the decision is a close one re: going to a MAC team or going to a bottom tied B10 team.


April 19th, 2013 at 3:28 PM ^

Very few college players think that way. These are guys who are stars. They don't think to themselves "why would I want to lose to OSU when I can maybe beat Ball State!" And thank God they don't. These guys think they're gonna win, and that's part of what makes them good players. Which is why Indiana and Illinois always out-recruit the MAC schools.

I ran track in high school, and I was good but not incredible. But I always wanted a shot at the top guys in the state, in my time it was Baraka, Charles Rogers and Stu Schweigart, even though they had always beaten me before. I didn't want my team to go to an invitational where I was the top sprinter there so I could win, I wanted a shot at the big boys, even though it probably meant I would lose.


April 19th, 2013 at 11:06 AM ^

That would indicate to me that he's not really the 8th best QB in this years class. I think offers are a much better indication of a player than what the recruiting services rank. I think just last year EMU had a Rivals250/4* QB from Ohio but his only offers were like EMU, Toledo, and Miami (NTM) so I'm a bit skeptical he's really a top 250 player when no one in the Big Ten gave him a sniff

Phil Brickma

April 19th, 2013 at 10:59 AM ^

Good pickup for WMU. Don't rule out the fact he might want to stay close to home. WMU isn't a bad option compared to the bottom of the Big Ten. If M and MSU weren't gonna offer? What's the best option for your situation? MAC football still is a scholarship.

Shakey Jake

April 19th, 2013 at 11:20 AM ^

Regardless of what many of you think he should or should not be ranked.


Bottom line is he's going to be a NCAA QB while you continue to whine on message boards in  your PB&J and cheep beer stained underwear.


April 19th, 2013 at 11:56 AM ^

What is the point of posting a response like this one? Why are you bitter over whether other random people in the world don't like how a guy is ranked?


Your 'bottom line' statement is also pointless as plenty of guys are technically NCAA athletes without actually playing at a level that deserves that status. It happens.

Blue Palasky_68

April 19th, 2013 at 11:21 AM ^

His offer sheet is underwhelming because he didn't really play anyone. The SMAC is not the powerhouse of South West Michigan. As a coach in that conference, I'd really like to know exactly how he ranked so high! Must have really impressed on the camp circuit.....