CFN Discusses 5th BCS bowl
CFN discusses if a 5th BCS bowl were added, where should it be?
http://cfn.scout.com/2/877496.html
Normally these discussions are crap (and this one mostly is too), but I thought there was 1 good idea brought up:
"Personally, I'd like to see a new bowl created and have it rotate among northern cities. The media would whine, but the media always whines. However, it would give more fans a chance to see a big college game."
That leads me to 2 questions:
1. What do you think about this?
2. If I agree with Fiutak (or any of the other CFN geniuses), do I have to go shoot myself?
1. A big time bowl really does need to be played in the snow and ice. It really does.
2. Not if it's only once.
Actually, I think that one issue with the Cotton Bowl is that on New Year's Day, Dallas can be rather cold and even have snow, IIRC.
Of the other ideas, the cotton bowl would be best because it would at least make some teams play in reasonably cold weather, but Texas and other big 12 teams would still be playing close to home. I think a big 10 area bowl game would be awesome.
Except that Dallas Stadium has a retractable roof, which is where the Cotton Bowl is moving to starting Jan. 1, 2010. So, it wouldn't really matter if it were cold or snowing then.
The 5th bowl was already created...last year you had the
Fiesta Texas vs OSU
Rose USC vs PSU
Orange Cinn vs VT
Sugar Ala vs Utah
NC Flo vs Okl
I live in Mich, but what kid wants to come to the D for a week in December??? Leave it the way it is. In 30 years hopefully I'm not dead and I can sit and enjoy Florida coming to the big house with their heaters and parkas for a game in December and we can pound the shit out of them as they shiver and we can say there now we're even for getting screwed in the bowls for 100 years
I think we need one in the north. Every rose bowl is played in USC's back yard, it would be nice to have a home field advantage at a bowl game for once.
How many bowl games are we going to have? A 5th BCS bowl site? Why stop there? Hell, let's do 10 of them so more schools and corporations can rake in money. The addition of another BCS game to accommodate non-BCS schools was enough. I highly doubt people in the South are going to pay alot of money to attend a BCS game in the North when it's cold. We like our hot weather down here, thank you very much.
Because nobody in the north ever goes to football games.
Everybody at the Michigan home football games travels from Florida to watch. No northerners are in attendance.
There's been a ton of press in Texas about the Cotton Bowl. Once a fairly prestigious bowl game, they are trying to get into the mix now that the game is moving into the new Cowboys stadium which seats 100,000.
This is another reason a playoff makes more sense. Having a home game at Michigan Stadium would be awesome in December. Don't tell me no one would come. They would. But the Superbowl is always played in nice weather or Ford Field(dome). But everyone loves watching the snow and ice games at Lambeau, Foxboro, or New York.
Personally, I think the total number of bowl games should be cut in half, not expanded. If you're going to add a BCS game however, then it should be a northern one, and why NOT have it travel? Select it just like the Olympics.
Spread the wealth around a bit, not all fans from northern cities have the time or money to travel south; sure the weather is nice, but it didn't stop the fools, er bravehearts from sticking around for the Northwestern loss.
If Michigan can put a 100,000 people in the stands for Toledo, they sure as hell can pack em in for a Dec/Jan MEANINGFUL bowl game. I don't think other schools would be that different.
Just add the Cotton Bowl so can stop pretending there is something historically more significant about the Fiesta Bowl.
There have already been talks about making the Cotton Bowl a BCS game:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls07/news/story?id=3172508
I think that is the most likely destination. I doubt they would create a whole other bowl because it would take time and money, whereas they could just pick a previously existing bowl game (One with some history and prestige) and convert it.
Cotton Bowl fits because of its history and the fact that there are no BCS games in Texas. Playing a Northern BCS bowl game is as likely as college ball getting a playoff IMO
There are so many proposals out there and so many opinions - of which mine is no better than others' - that I have always thought it might be best to find an alternative that conforms as much to Pareto's principle (all parties better off) as possible. And here is what I have. It is not perfect, but I don't see, with few small exceptions, how any existing constituent - other than hypocritical University presidents who don't want to see one extra game for just two of FBS' 120 teams - is not made better off by this:
- Add a 5th BCS Bowl
- Allow that Bowl to tie in with a conference champion if there is mutual agreement with a conference (or two) to do so (The Big East is the obvious one, so I say the Gator Bowl, but it could be anything)
- Play 5 BCS Bowl games as is done today, but with no Conference tie-in ever thrown asunder.
- Use same rules of eligibility as today (I'd love to see them changed, but I can't think of a good solution where one constituent isn't made worse off)
- Re-run BCS rankings after these 5 Bowls
- Play a MNC game that rotates among the four existing BCS bowl sites
I'm not sure I see a downside for anybody here other than the fact that the Sugar, Fiesta and Orange would lose the ability to place the Big East champ in their bowl game
Personally, I'd also like to see teams without direct conference championship tie-ins get slotted in to bowl games based on their penultimate BCS ranking (barring in-conference matchups) but the BCS bowls would likely wouldn't go for that what with ticket sales & TV ratings abut which to worry.
I would love to have the 5th BCS bowl in the north. To make it work I think you would have to put it in a major city with a dome stadium or at a historic stadium such as Lambeau Field or Soldier Field.
The north game would give northern fans a closer game to travel to, it would be like a northern NFL playoff game, and it would have a much different feel to it than the southern BCS games. I'm all for it.
I'd rather see a playoff.