CCish: MgoTimeMachine

Submitted by BrewCityBlue on January 2nd, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Welcome to the MgoTimeMachine.

Here you are offered a unique opportunity to go back in time and decide the present "future" of our football program.

Please choose from the below options.

1. You hop in the MgoTimeMachine and go back to 2007. Lloyd Carr never steps down. He is still the coach of our M program going into 2011. Bill Martin may or may not still be the AD. The team has gone on continuing getting 8.5-10.5 wins each year since 2007, competing for b10 championships but never getting over the cusp and challenging for a National Championship. "Mediocrity" as we M faithful would call it, but in hindsight, some pretty satisfying mediocrity at that.

2. Exactly what has happened in 2008-present with Rrod at helm. For this option you use the MgoTimeMachine and go back, but, decide to not change anything. We are exactly where we sit today as you read this and nothing has changed about the last 3 years. We just lost in bad fashion in our first bowl in 3 years and now we're waiting on DB's decision for either JH or RR to be the coach of next year's team, barring anything crazy happening.

3. This is the Wild Card i guess since i feel if we had a MgoTimeMachine we'd have more than these 2 scenarios available. You fire up the MgoTimeMachine and go back to 2007. Lloyd announces he is stepping down after the season, and you have the ability to point our program in a certain direction at that point. You hire someone not RR or Lloyd (Miles, Kelly, Davis, Hoke, Harbaugh back then; whatever other plausible options there were instead of RR) and our program's future is determined going forward.


For me, when i get in the MgoTimeMachine, I go back to change things and make the last 3 years better for us. Upon arriving in 2007 i realize the same things i thought back then originally: The program is getting stale under Lloyd and we need to make a change.

Rrod is an option but if we hire him we know exactly what we're getting and the whole reason i came back in time was to make 2008-2010 more bearable. I'm not hiring Miles (the person i originally wanted in 07 if it wasn't Lloyd).

I decide, after much internal toiling back and forth, that i will not change anything. Lloyd stepped down at the right time for him, and probably the right time for the program (though having more than 1 capable qb and some actual safeties/lbs on the roster before leaving would've been nice). By not changing anything, i accept the hiring of RR in 07 and the offensive magicianry that will surely ensue. I understand the special teams and defensive shortcomings and the practice gate situation. I accept 3-9, 5-7 and 7-6. I feel somewhat guilty for allowing a kind man such as RR to be thrown into a gauntlet of things that he can surely never overcome.

But by making this decision i get the same things we have today: A chance for RR's offense to peak next year along with a hopefully somewhat competent defense and kicking game, paving the way for many future years of success after a horrible start that hopefully humbled the fanbase and everyone in our entire program. Or, a hopefully short rebuilding period with JH and a return to glory to follow shortly thereafter.

Well then, i guess this whole MgoTimeMachine exercise was pointless for me. I can't believe i went back in time to change things, and ended up letting them be exactly as they are. I have no good explanation for this, especially given the last 3 painful years. I guess the unknows of a different future can be scarier than originally thought.

After realizing ths, maybe i should not even post this, but, alas, I will put it out there and let you decide what you would do if afforded the opporunity. For anyone that disagrees with this post, you do not HAVE to get in the MgoTimeMachine, you can simply click into the next thread. However, if you decide to take the last 3 years and the future of the M football program into your hands,  move forward with caution and make your decision with great care. All of the MgoBlogosphere is counting on you!



January 2nd, 2011 at 2:35 PM ^

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January 2nd, 2011 at 2:15 PM ^

I don't think hiring Rodriguez was a mistake. Not sure there was anyone else better to hire at the time. Still think if we get rid of him he's going to go somewhere and set the world on fire.


January 2nd, 2011 at 2:16 PM ^

If I am in that time machine I tell anyone who will listen that you must recruit defense. Booboo may not be the answer in the secondary. If anyone listens, no matter who you bring in will have a better chance at success. I would also ask Lloyd to come out in support of our new coach and reward him with some sweet cash. Also I shit can Dollar Bill and hire Brandon.


January 2nd, 2011 at 2:42 PM ^

1. Hire RR

2. Keep Ron English

3. Better job of keeping count of stretching

4. Find some dual threat qb in 2008 recruting class and hold on to him with dear life.

Indiana Blue

January 2nd, 2011 at 8:53 PM ^

we have Mallett at QB, throwing to Manningham and Arrington.  We get another NFL prospect QB (since every starter since JH has gone into the NFL) ... and reload.  The defense is still solid .. and we have just completed our 36th straight bowl !!!

.... and posters complain about another 9 - 4 season !!!!

Go Blue !


January 2nd, 2011 at 3:17 PM ^

I go back to 2007, and I announce Lloyd's retirement mid-season. I hire a consultant to handle the coaching search, since I don't know what the hell I am doing.

The thing that has always bothered me about the RR hire.... he was never clamoring to come to Michigan. We were not his dream job. He'd had a falling out with WVU and needed an out. We were conviently there to pick him up, after being shunned by a few others. This, IMO, is NO way to handle hiring a coach anywhere, let alone at the winningest program in college football history.


January 2nd, 2011 at 3:20 PM ^

I would do this repeatedly and try out Schiano, Hoke, Miles, Ferentz, Kelly, Martin, etc. until I found the best outcome.  I would also get very rich in the market and with betting.


January 2nd, 2011 at 3:32 PM ^

Kelly....Brian Kelly.

He is a colossal dick, but the dude can coach himself some football. BK coached for many years in the state of Michigan so he would have had plenty of "pull" in the state in regards to recruiting, thus denying St. Mark of East Lansing the strong footing he currently enjoys.

The only problem is that, at least according to the "insiders" at GBW, Kelly was never going to be a serious candidate because of some undisclosed skeleton(s) in his closet (not the racial comments while he was at CMU) that UM would not overlook.

But this is a fantasy, so...Brian Kelly.


January 3rd, 2011 at 2:17 AM ^

But didn't RR beat Brian Kelly this year?

Also, not sure if you noticed but Brian Kelly is currently answering questions about staffers falling to their death and people getting raped.

Plus, we still would have had to hear constant whining/nonsense about the spread not working in the Big Ten, that he's not a Michigan Man, etc.

And you're correct, he's a colossal dick.


January 2nd, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^

All this talk about stock markets and investments are off target - how many people really know what to buy and when? Could you even get a shot at the Google IPO?

Better to have gone way back to 1969 and get yourself a beer distributorship and a Domino pizza franchise in Ann Arbor, Columbus, Champaign, Madison, all of the Big Ten schools, etc.


January 2nd, 2011 at 5:30 PM ^

Jesus you guys are lame.  If you had a time machine at your disposal you'd use it to fix Michigan's football program or prevent WW II?

Me?  I'd use it to get laid a lot more in my past.  Pretty sure with the benefit of time travel I coud make that work.


January 2nd, 2011 at 7:32 PM ^

Here's the thing: if time travel is possible, can you say that what has happened to this point was uninfluenced by time travel? No, not really - you have to say that it's possible time travel actually caused those things to be the way they were.

That is to say, either time travel isn't possible in your lifetime, or it is and you chose to do something else when it became available.