CC: Bacon: Hoke likely to stay until December, Brandon's status less certain

Submitted by dnak438 on October 1st, 2014 at 5:08 PM

After talking with knowledgeable people, I am more convinced that Brady Hoke will survive the season, and less convinced Dave Brandon will.

— John U. Bacon (@Johnubacon) October 1, 2014

 

Of course, there's always the Brandon Exception: He might decide to depart on his own. Still more questions than answers, however. We'll see

— John U. Bacon (@Johnubacon) October 1, 2014

 

To clarify, as things now stand, I believe UM's Hoke will remain and be evaluated in December. Brandon's future less certain.

— John U. Bacon (@Johnubacon) October 1, 2014

Comments

ShadowStorm33

October 1st, 2014 at 5:20 PM ^

I want both gone now, and I don't think I'm alone. I see absolutely no upside to letting Hoke "coach" (if you can even call it that) another game, but there's plenty of downside (the way they've been playing, 2-10 is looking more and more likely). What more evaluation do you need? At least give a guy like Nuss a chance to see what he can do...

glewe

October 1st, 2014 at 6:12 PM ^

You know, Al's offense didn't permit a great support of teaching of the fundamentals. But he scored.

Nuss's offense does permit support in teaching of the fundamentals. But he hasn't scored.

If scoring is the point of offense, Borges's offense was more successful.

If development is the point of our program, Nuss's will be more successful.

jballen4eva

October 1st, 2014 at 8:04 PM ^

Seems like Borges painted himself in a corner.  He kept mixing things up to make up for the poor fundamentals, which just made the fundamentals worse.  

I never played the game, so a question for those here with knowledge: Who is responsible for developing the players?  How much of that is on the coordinators vs. the HC and other coaches?    

michchi85

October 1st, 2014 at 5:34 PM ^

Is definitely weighted more towards the end of the season compared to now to get more of a handle on the offense.  My point was that up until now he has shown absolutely nothing that makes him be the head coach if Hoke gets fired during the season.  

GoBLUinTX

October 1st, 2014 at 6:04 PM ^

Al Borges was fired for having a bad offense that could score points, 32 ppg average.  Nussmeier was hired to "fix" that offense and he's managed to turn a bad offense that could score points into a horrible offense that can't score points, 20 ppg average with a shut out and near shutout to his credit.

Got it now?

trustBlue

October 1st, 2014 at 6:57 PM ^

I love this idea that Nussmeier has some secret plan for a dominant offense tucked away in drawer and everytime he tries to pull it out Hoke comes into the room and grunts "moar Manball!" and Nussmeier shakes his head and reluctantly tucks it back away.

Face facts.  This is Nussmeier's offense. The idea that Hoke or Brandon or some secret cabal of Bo acolytes are some conspiring against Nussmeier for fear of the abomination of a spread offense invading Schembechler hall is start to reach Illuminati levels of wackjob conspiracy.

It's Nussmeier who designed this offense, its Nussmeier who calls the plays, its Nussmeier the "QB" guru that has spent the last 4-5 months working with Shane and Devin Gardner. Nussmeier is not responsible for the players he inherited, but the offense is 100% his.  If you think that he's earned a promotion then let's just say that we have very different standards of job performance.

Roc Blue in the Lou

October 2nd, 2014 at 12:31 AM ^

Careful.  Trust me, Trust Blue, do NOT point out the divots in the grass that's always greener on the other side of the Blog...Big Al must be THE reason and, now that he's gone and Nuss is here, only a conspiracy at the highest levels has kept coach Nuss from revealing the greatness of his offensive genius.  I mean, what was Alabama before him...if you don't count the rings, that is.

Maize and Blue…

October 1st, 2014 at 5:38 PM ^

the first series against Utah and scored.  We reverted to Brady's beloved manball after that and zilch.  I have no idea if Nuss is a problem or not, but I do know Brady is a Dline coach at this level and has no business being the HC (Hand Clapper?) at the University of Michigan.

teldar

October 1st, 2014 at 5:42 PM ^

I wonder again if what we're seeing is the product of Funk more than Nuss. I see it as a probable combination of 

1)Nuss hasn't had enough time.

2)Hoke interferes

3)The position coaches are not competent. 

I'm completely on board with the first. Not sure about the second but I could be convinced very easily. Feeling that a scrubbing could help the team as far as the third one goes. 

 

BlueInWisconsin

October 1st, 2014 at 6:01 PM ^

The way I looked at at it the Nuss hire was universally lauded on this message board as the coaching coup of the off season.  And now a few games into the season people want to pull the plug?  Seems foolish to me.  We knew two things going into the season... that there was going to be a transition on offense and that the offensive line was going to be young and problematic.  Both turned out to be true.  I think there is a lot of up side in letting Nuss establish himself and his offense.

TheJuiceman

October 1st, 2014 at 9:44 PM ^

Pretty short-sighted and "football-ignorant" sounding comment there bud. As if we have had enough time to even think we know what we may or may not have in Nuss. Guess we'll find out when he's elsewhere, not here in A2 so Joke can keep shitting the bed. Great plan and VERY Michigan Man-ish, if I must say so.

Wolvie3758

October 1st, 2014 at 8:03 PM ^

Of meeting John. Yes I can call him that,  at a corporate event this past summer at Boyne Mtn. As I was in charge of the event I had some quality time to talk and get to know him. I found him to be highly intelligent, LOVES Michigan, very insightful and a total as they say truth teller.

I found him to be very objective and we talked alot about the current state of affairs of various Michigan teams.

He sought out my opinion on what I thought of all these things that are being discussed.

 

Bottom Line..I trust him and I believe he knows what hes talking about.

 

ThadMattasagoblin

October 1st, 2014 at 5:23 PM ^

The fact that you'd still have the head coach there that recruited them for 2 months to make his pitch for them to stay at Michigan vs. no one. It's a lot easier to go 2 weeks without a head guy in december than to fire him now plus you could lose the team and players could quit. I'd rather we just keep him if we're not going to be good anyways.