CB Run for Michigan for Jalen Wilson / DJ Carton

Submitted by Bodogblog on May 11th, 2018 at 3:06 PM

Subject of the front page, there is a run on both of these players for Michigan today.  Four each, and some are VIP, but given the prediction timeline it looks like they're all Michigan. 

Go to the link below and look under the Crystal Ball Predictions section on the right.  Includes Sam Webb and some other legit-seeming prognosticators. 



You are invited to attempt to not confuse these names with DJ Wilson over and over again. 



Jalen Wilson a 5* to 247, #15 player in the country(!). 4* to 247 Composite, #28 player in the country (#27 is a 5*).  #4 and #8 SF, respectively.


DJ Carton a 4*, #37 player in the country to 247. 4*, #33 to Composite. #5 and #4 PG. 




May 11th, 2018 at 3:35 PM ^

I thought Kentucky and Louisville and a few other teams were the only ones fortunate enough to have the problem of worrying about cap space. 

In all seriousness though, it would be cool to see us win out for someone over a team like Kansas basketball though. If your team is saything that same thing but regarding Kansas football, well.....that's different....and sad. 


May 11th, 2018 at 4:02 PM ^

We currently have one open spot for 2019, but Matthews is a pretty safe bet to go pro, and I’d guess the third-place finisher in the PG battle next year is a decent bet to transfer, especially if we get a PG commit shortly.


May 11th, 2018 at 4:41 PM ^

Also, as Brian suggested on the FP, there's a decent chance someone makes a leap to serious NBA prospect (not naming potential names, but one of them rhymes with Riordan Cool) and takes off.

But I think the chances of a PG transfer prior to the 19-20 school year are extremely high regardless. That's not a knock against any of the guys on the roster--there's a non-zero chance that all three are good enough to be starting PGs in a power five conference by 2019, and if that's the case, someone who isn't getting minutes is probably best-served going somewhere else to get on the floor. 


May 12th, 2018 at 12:41 AM ^

As for a PG transfer, I think it would have to be Brooks if he finished third.

It's tough for freshmen to do much as PGs for John Beilein, so if DeJulius finishes third, he'd be crazy to transfer after just one year.  That almost has to be the expectation for him.

He'd still be looking at being the backup after just one more year and the starter his senior year, and that's if he didn't move ahead of Brooks his 2nd or 3rd years, which is easily possible after he learns the offense.  Could only see him transferring if he lost out to a younger guy down the road.

But yeah, I'd be absolutely shocked if Matthews came back for a fifth year.  That's getting way too old by NBA standards.  He'd have a degree.  Best thing for him would be to start his career.  Only exception is if he got hurt and needed a year to prove his health before he could get signed by a G League/European Club because he's already there at his point.


blue in dc

May 11th, 2018 at 6:04 PM ^

i’ll leave the first part of the comment alone. But if Maizen wants to demonstrate a sense of humor he’ll have a new avatar reflecting this comment (wish I was gifted enough to provide one)

Blue in Paradise

May 12th, 2018 at 10:55 AM ^

HD would start flamethrowing politics and personal fights but I thought he added a lot otherwise.

Maizen just seemed like a miserable douchebag of a human being whose goal it was to make others feel as miserable as him. He is probably the same in the “real world” - you never want to associate with people like that.


May 11th, 2018 at 3:19 PM ^

I'm going to be skeptical, especially about Wilson, until he actually commits, and maintain some until there's a faxed LOI on file.

Nothing against the kid, and I won't hold it against him if things go this way, but if Kansas is on the table, we're competing on a different playing field.


May 12th, 2018 at 12:47 AM ^

1) these aren't top10 5 star one-and-done's like Jaylen Brown and Mo Bamba that didn't have to worry about developing.  Those guys pretty much just want to not get hurt and stay in the lottery.  These guys (Wilson and Carton) do need to develop and play a couple years to get to the NBA. And because of that, they probably aren't going to garner the kind of pay (from agents or whereever) such that the paying field is that different.

2) I have to think our recent success has us closer to Kansas in terms of being able to offer high likelihood of winning while they're here as well.  A sweet 16, then a title game run (second in six years) has to move the recruiting needle, right?  RIGHT? (**remembers that's what everyone said in 2014 too**).


May 12th, 2018 at 2:26 AM ^

Both of those guys you mentioned played hard in College, and Jaylen Brown went to Cal. I doubt he got any money to go out there and play, as much as it was the opportunity to be on a pretty high level academic campus for a year. I think a lot of people have this misconception of 5-star recruits, that they just go to college and chill for a year until the NBA draft comes along. Most of these players are uber-competitive and can’t stand losing so they will more often than not be an asset to a team. Plus they have worked on their craft with dedication and determination all their lives up to this point why do you think it would all of a sudden change once they get on campus.


May 11th, 2018 at 3:30 PM ^

It's going to be hard for me to believe it's happening until I hear they've signed a LOI. I've seen us lose these guys to blue bloods at the last second too often


May 11th, 2018 at 4:52 PM ^

In addition to what Beilein has proven for himself and Michigan, I do think schools have already started to clean up their act in recruiting due to the FBI investigation. Not saying it is all suddenly clean, but I doubt the money is flowing as freely from Adidas. I would also bet the AAU coaches are pulling back some of their pressure as well because they don't have as big a carrot to offer anymore from the shoe companies.

If this is true, that all helps Michigan in addition to the hard work the coaching staff is doing.


May 11th, 2018 at 3:40 PM ^

But we're re-establishing (or just establishing) ourselves as a blue blood program now, too. Just one that doesn't recruit dirty.


May 11th, 2018 at 3:40 PM ^

We have a limited number of years with Beilein left. I predict the best stretch in the history of Mihcigan basketball. 

It's going to be fun!


May 11th, 2018 at 4:34 PM ^

Nice!!! Hopefully we land both. This is what I want to hear fuck those 5 stars that go elsewhere. I would rather a 4 Star who will guarantee 2-3 years here than a 1 time deal. HAIL BEILEIN!!