bye bye redshirt

Submitted by tokarz76 on September 4th, 2010 at 6:00 PM

There goes the redshirt. Hope that works well. SO GLAD shoelace is back!


Clarence Beeks

September 4th, 2010 at 11:55 PM ^

I personally love that decision.  If he was really serious that Gardner was going to play this year, and there's no reason to believe that he wasn't serious, then it was a great move because it takes the possibility and temptation off of the table right away.  No they can just focus on playing football this year.


September 4th, 2010 at 6:12 PM ^

Unreal that he would burn Gardner's redshirt instead of just playing Forcier. The writing is on the wall folks. Forcier is most likely gone and now we are down to a freshman to backup Robinson. How could Forcier go from starting last year to 3rd on the depth chart? I'm kind of pissed because I feel like Forcier is being thrown under the bus. Coach Rod that was a VERY bold move. I CANNOT believe this. If Robinson gets hurt we are most likely screwed because Gardner is not game ready. Forcier must of done something to piss Coach Rod off bad.


September 4th, 2010 at 6:21 PM ^

There is no way Gardner would be more productive this year then Forcier. Has Rich not learned that Freshman QB = Disaster? WOW just wow. Unreal. Prepare for a transfer folks. Forcier looked PISSED on the sideline when Coach Rod told him that Gardner was going in. Forcier is gone folks! Gardner's redshirt is burned. FUCK!!!!


September 4th, 2010 at 6:43 PM ^

If Tate came in under Lloyd his career would've turned out just like Jason's did.  He grew up in a family that bred him to be a quarterback from the moment the sperm hit the overies.  He was as polished his freshman as most D-1 quarterbacks after two years.  That being said, preparation doesn't make him great.  There's only so much that can do for you.  Part of it is genetics, and while Tate was polished, he didn't have the skill set needed.

It was pretty obvious during the Iowa game Rich Rod wasn't a fan of Tate's... but Tate was literally his ONLY option.  Devin Gardener is a much more skilled player, and with the help of spring practice has been able to refine his talent to much better suit Rich Rod's system than Tate's talent ever was.  

Tate should always be remembered positively by Michigan fans for helping bridge a gap that was the lowest talent level ever to step foot on campus in Ann Arbor.  But unfortunately his time (tentatively since Denard could get hurt and Devin really truely might not be ready) is up when it comes to being a consistant on-field contributer.  But he also could work harder from this point on and try to be a leader and impact this team off the field too.  I hope that's what he does.

I love Tate and I hope nothing but the best for him.  But what's the best for him isn't what's best for the on-field performance of Michigan.  It's just the flat out truth.


September 4th, 2010 at 7:02 PM ^

It's quite possible Tate regessed since last year having not practiced much in the summer. Ezeh regressed last year and by all reports practiced his ass off. All reports last year suggested Tate didn't prepare as hard as he had the year before (when he won the veterans' support as a freshman). If Tate isn't playing it's his own fault.


September 4th, 2010 at 6:20 PM ^

There is no reason to have Gardner backing up Robinson. Coach Rod would rather have a TRUE FRESHMAN back up Robinson then last year's starter that took us to a 4-0 start? WHY COACH ROD????????????  I am seriously starting to question Coach Rod's common sense. I AM PISSED!!!!


September 4th, 2010 at 6:39 PM ^

From the looks of it Gardner is the backup. Forcier is sitting on the bench by himself making a scene. Writing is on the wall. Coach Rod is digging his own grave. We are ONE play away from ANOTHER TRUE FRESHMAN QB playing. Judging by how many big hits Robinson has taken today that is very possibly going to happen.


September 4th, 2010 at 9:46 PM ^ Minimum Amount of Competition. Any competition, regardless of time, during a season in an intercollegiate sport shall be counted as a season of competition in that sport, except as provided in Bylaws,, and This provision is applicable to intercollegiate athletics competition conducted by a two-year or four-year collegiate institution at the varsity or subvarsity level. (Revised: 1/11/94, 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05, 5/9/06, 1/16/10 effective 8/1/10)

Gardner redshirt this year=burned

There is, however, a provision for a medical reshirt if he gets injured and those rules are something like less than 15% of the total season played. That is what confuses people the most I believe.


September 4th, 2010 at 9:55 PM ^

Any time you play a single snap of any game, it counts as a sesaon played and becomes inelligible for redshirting.

It does not matter how long you were involved in a particular competition (for example, one play in a football game, one point in a volleyball match); you will be charged with one season of competition.

NCAA FAQ on redshirting


September 4th, 2010 at 10:38 PM ^

According to NCAA:

Each student is allowed no more than four seasons of competition per sport. If you were not a qualifier, you may have fewer seasons of competition available to you. You should know that NCAA rules indicate that any competition, regardless of time, during a season counts as one of your seasons of competition in that sport. It does not matter how long you were involved in a particular competition (for example, one play in a football game, one point in a volleyball match); you will be charged with one season of competition.


September 4th, 2010 at 6:30 PM ^

Tate looked PISSED when the showed him after Gardiner went in.  Can't say I blame's the one thing that has me scratching my head after what was otherwise and awesome game.  It just doesn't make any sense. 


September 4th, 2010 at 6:40 PM ^

Guys relax.. Its the first game of the season and with DR we looked upbeat and straight dangerous. While I appreciate the monumental impact of redshirting DG could have, if RR thinks that DG is the better option at Q hes going to play. Lets also not kid ourselves, an extra year with DG would be fantastic but whats to keep him from taking it next year?


September 4th, 2010 at 6:42 PM ^

I'll trust RR on this call, but I still think the destruction of Tate's confidence is going to hurt this team this year.  At some point, UM is going to need his passing, and right now he is a shell of his former self.  


September 4th, 2010 at 6:44 PM ^

last year...summer workouts are not mandatory..but neither is playing time. I was pissed at 1st, but  I think coach had to make a point with Tate..if you blow off the voluntary will not play. If that means Tate transfers, oh well.  Yes if our starting QB gets hurt we are screwed, but how many teams in the country can say the same thing? As for the redshirt, it kind of pisses me off to know its gone now..seeing how amazing Denard is. 


September 4th, 2010 at 6:49 PM ^

Don't drink the Denard kool-aid just yet man. Denard played AMAZING against UCONN, but we will see what he is made of against ND. Tate transferring is a HUGE deal. More bad press, and we would lose our only QB that has proven he can pass against good teams.

Magnum P.I.

September 4th, 2010 at 8:36 PM ^

Denard just had one of the most electrifying games ever for a Michigan QB. He tore to shreds a highly touted UConn front seven. He worked hard during the offseason. His teammates love him and go to battle for him. He has vastly improved his throwing and completely nearly 90% of his passes today. He played great and has done everything right. He deserves for us to believe in him.

double blue

September 4th, 2010 at 6:53 PM ^

i was just as pissed at others originally, but seeing tate sit on the bench makes me believe he has not truly "earned his wings".    he should have been up rooting the team on--- no matter what.   the team the team the team,     i will trust rrod


September 4th, 2010 at 6:57 PM ^

Why are people stuck on redshirting Devin.  If he is ready, he should play. Coach Rod thinks he adds value otherwise he wouldnt be out there.  As for Tate. lets not give up on him yet, he is young and may get his act together.