Perkis-Size Me

August 23rd, 2016 at 10:32 AM ^

9-3 for OSU might not be as bold as some of us (including myself) might think.

Are they stupid talented? Yes. But only having six returning starters is tough to overcome. And having to play at Oklahoma, at Wisconsin (which could be a desperate team by then), at MSU, at PSU (likely at night, and is never, ever an easy place to win a game), and then playing us to close out the season, it's not totally inconceivable to think that 1-3 of those games could be losses.

I'm betting against them in Oklahoma anyway.




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schreibee

August 23rd, 2016 at 3:57 PM ^

Let me see if I understand this - either that prediction says osu will have 2 conference L before we play them, while we're undefeated. And then we lose to them in a game that, while not meaningless of course, at least the outcome would have no bearing on the B1G Title.

Or, we both have 1 B1G loss and we beat them in Columbus to clinch East.

So if I'm reading some comments on here correctly, people would prefer we lose the game to osu rather than have already potentially lost a game to msu? Am I getting this right?

There's your #1 thing that separates those of us who left the state vs those who still live there, or those of us from the era of the 10-Year War vs those whose memories don't go back before 2008.

I cannot foresee a circumstance ever coming where I'd think msu was a more important rival than osu. And I don't want to!!!

 

 

gwkrlghl

August 23rd, 2016 at 10:35 AM ^

I think he's got Iowa with too many wins. I think they'll win the west but in the lamest possible fashion. Something like 8-4 overall and winning a 3-way tie at 5-3 in conference where they will then be sacrificed to the East champion

Ronnie Kaye

August 23rd, 2016 at 7:58 PM ^

Perhaps not. But if we do, one thing's certain: Nobody here with hubris on the matter will take their medicine and if you call them out on it, people will defend them and say "hey, that's just what we're supposed to do as fans."

In other words, predictions are truly worthless in an environment where homerism is the norm.

UM Fan from Sydney

August 23rd, 2016 at 10:39 AM ^

I hope OSU goes 9-3 (or worse), but they won't. Potential losses are Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Penn State, MSU, and Michigan. I am predicting they beat Oklahoma, Penn State, and MSU. Wisconsin and Michigan are toss up games.

BlueKoj

August 23rd, 2016 at 11:07 AM ^

You think they win their first road game (in Norman) vs. a top-10 type team but have a toss up vs. a rebuilding WI team? I don't understand the logic. I'm not saying that can't happen but on paper, the Sooners look much tougher in Norman than the Badgers in Madison. The earlier in the season, the harder for Meyer to work out the kinks and get experience to his raw talent.

superstringer

August 23rd, 2016 at 10:43 AM ^

Too many times, people make this season's predictions by remembering how everyone played at the end of last season -- and assuming that teams that didn't lose a lot of players are presumed to be as good as last year.  Happens all the time with NFL predictions, for instance.  A lot of prognostications are basically last year's playoff teams, with like one or two changes -- but in fact, just aboot every year, the NFL has almost half of the playoff teams being different from the prior year.

I think the B1G West is a lot like the NFL in that respect.  A lot of balanced teams, no one is particularly great, only a couple of real dogs, and everyone else can beat everyone else "on any given Saturday."  Iowa won a lot of close, low-scoring games last year, and really avoided the turnover bugaboo.  They basically outlasted a lot of opponents, as opposed to outright beating them.

The law of averages is going to catch up to the Hawkeyes.  They certainly won't go undefeated in B1G play this year (see:  we're on their schedule), and I just don't think they are going to win every close gamea gain.

I'll pick Nebraska to win that division--but if you told me FutureMan told you that [Minnesota / Wisconsin / Northwestern] won the division this year, I wouldn't be surprised either.

MGo Joker

August 23rd, 2016 at 10:47 AM ^

Finally some good news, albeit in a prediction article. I thought I was going to go crazy with all the recent negative news...



Maybe I missed it- but did he say which game he predicted us to lose?

Giff4484

August 23rd, 2016 at 11:26 AM ^

OSU and MSU don't take a step back? You don't just plug in guys who are going to be as good as Lee, Bosa and Elliot and Decker at OSU. Even Bell at safety was pretty good. Yeah they have good players but those guys were elite players.

Msu don't get me started. You lose your Qb and 1st round lineman and a great player on D. Sorry they barely beat us and lost a lot.

maize-blue

August 23rd, 2016 at 3:30 PM ^

We've been wrong because we were hoping that Brady Hoke teams were going to turn the corner. Instead his teams became softer and softer. I agree that there is a lot of reservation from the fanbase becasue we've been let down so many times. However, I can't be that reserved with a Jim Harbaugh team, too much evidence to prove otherwise, too many things pointed in the right direction with this roster. We're taking down MSU by at least two TD's and OSU by five to seven points.

gwkrlghl

August 23rd, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^

People have been saying "MSU is going to take a step back this year" or "MSU is about to fade back to the middle of the pack" since at least 2009 and it's never really happened. Same thing with OSU for the last 2-3 years.

They're well coached teams and solidly built programs at this point. I'll believe they win less than 9 games in a year when I see it

The Mad Hatter

August 23rd, 2016 at 12:26 PM ^

taking a step back until we beat OSU and MSU.

But seriously, any semi-objective observer has to conclude that both teams won't be as good as last year.  If that means one more loss or four more losses is up for debate, but neither team is going to be as good (or lucky, in MSU's case) as they were last year.

Ronnie Kaye

August 23rd, 2016 at 8:02 PM ^

And if they don't no one on here will hold you to your words because they'll be in "MSU will fall back to the pack next year" mode, which has been the MGoCompanyLine since 2010.