November 25th, 2018 at 6:31 AM ^
Um, when was the last time you played in the Rose Bowl?
November 25th, 2018 at 8:14 AM ^
When is the last time you did?
November 24th, 2018 at 8:45 PM ^
Let's see the team shit the bed a second straight year. Revenge Tour revamped vs. South Carolina.
November 24th, 2018 at 8:48 PM ^
The WR that was in the game that got called for the penalty - Mccalley?? I think he might sit out.
November 24th, 2018 at 8:48 PM ^
If I am not mistaken, there was a fair amount of rumbling about the Big Ten East runner-up going to the Rose Bowl, but I could be imagining this and of course, there is a committee which has to make a weird and uncomfortable decision about this very thing in the coming weeks.
November 24th, 2018 at 8:50 PM ^
I wouldn't even want the Rose Bowl after this bed shitting.
November 24th, 2018 at 8:56 PM ^
We had a very good season. Dominated three established programs coming off 10 win seasons. Very deserving of going to the Rose Bowl if that happens.
These players accomplished a lot this year. Want them to get the best possible experienvce in the postseason. For them.
I wouldn't want them to play for many of the downright spoiled and whiny fans seen on here tonight.
Fuckers don't deserve to claim the efforts of these players or the fruits of those efforts after a win.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:07 PM ^
Dominating teams coming off 10 wins season means zero. Wisconsin and MSU were terrible this season. Minnesota just dominated Wisconsin. Neither are quality wins other than the fact beating our rivals was sweet in one of them. Penn State was a semi quality win and sure was a beat down.
We played 2 very good teams this season, only 2, we went 0-2 in those games, both of which were riivalry games.
November 25th, 2018 at 8:47 AM ^
This 100%
We played 2 decent teams and lost to both. We can't even play in our own conference championship.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:26 PM ^
We may be whining but Michigan fans are far from spoiled. If you want to see a spoiled fan base, look no further than Ohio State.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:43 PM ^
Only if OSU doesn’t get in to the playoffs. If they do, Rose Bowl is in play. If not, BIG champ, OSU no doubt is in Rose. Meyer will look to score 50 plus vs. the Wildcats.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:43 PM ^
Only if OSU doesn’t get in to the playoffs. If they do, Rose Bowl is in play. If not, BIG champ, OSU no doubt is in Rose. Meyer will look to score 50 plus vs. the Wildcats.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:51 PM ^
I believe there is precedent for the Rose Bowl to take whoever they want from the Big Ten if the champion goes to the playoff, not necessarily the championship game runner up. But I am not going to take the time to actually look it up because I know I'll be wrong and get even more depressed. So take my word for it, we're going to the Rose Bowl, yeah!
November 24th, 2018 at 8:50 PM ^
Osu will get in & we will get to here how Meyer has overcome so much...
Thanks to the Maryland QB who couldn't complete a 5 yard pass to win it.
November 24th, 2018 at 10:00 PM ^
If Maryland beat OSU and we had the East locked up and then lost like we did today I'd probably be deeper in BPONE than I am now.
November 24th, 2018 at 11:25 PM ^
Thanks to the Maryland QB who couldn't complete a 5 yard pass to win it.
Yay for hypothetically backing into the B1G championship game because fucking Maryland can beat tOSU but not Michigan.
November 25th, 2018 at 6:03 AM ^
We will never know but I think OSU would have quit after a loss to Maryland.
November 24th, 2018 at 8:51 PM ^
Who cares.....I just want guys with fire on the field.
November 24th, 2018 at 8:58 PM ^
Yesssssss. We hate Sparty. Mow just hate OSU more
November 24th, 2018 at 8:56 PM ^
Shea - I get that he wants to beat next years class to the pros, but its hard for me to believe he's good enough now.
Our top two corners - at least one of Long and Avery go.
Bush - gone if his draft stock stays in top 10.
Gary - Gone period.
November 24th, 2018 at 8:57 PM ^
They should all fucking play. Their NFL aspirations did not get any better today.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:01 PM ^
So, pondering this thread. I don’t think anyone is ready for NFL. When has Gary truly dominated a game. When has any Michigan player dominate (took over game). With that being said Patterson is not ready. His arm strength is not up to par. Hill,Levert, and Gary were not good against OSU. Remember OSU players go to NFL.
Our best players were not are best players against OSU.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:12 PM ^
If today was Gary's last game and I had to sum up his U-M career in one word, it would have to be underwhelming. I feel like we are still waiting for that breakout game--especially in a game that matters.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:58 PM ^
"Solid" is a much better description. I can't recall a single fuck up by him in his entire playing career at Michigan. He's good. Very good even. Not elite though.
Would he start at OSU or Clemson? I think not.
November 25th, 2018 at 12:02 AM ^
He fucked up quite a bit as a freshmen, several times last year, most memorably on the long Barkley run at PSU.
This year he did become a very solid but not at all dominant player.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:12 PM ^
The main question concerns whether guys whose draft stock is undeniably high and are virtually first round picks would or even should play in the bowl game (as Christian McCafferey) But you do raise a big question whether or not some of them should rethink there readiness in the first place. Unfortunately the coaching hardly put these guys in their best position to shine today.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:45 PM ^
Gary's best game was vs. OSU - LAST year. Needed it today. Not sure how much he is hurt though.
The only group that played to their level is WR today.
November 24th, 2018 at 10:15 PM ^
It has nothing to do with being ready. Its about potential and money. How many of the players potential goes up next year? Why return for this offensive scheme. Weak qb draft class. Patterson, bush, gary, hill and long gone.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:07 PM ^
I'm sure they will mail it in again like they have just about every big game under Harbaugh. Mental midgets
November 24th, 2018 at 9:14 PM ^
Pretty much every big game in the last twenty years. Don't limit this just to Harbaugh. This is an epidemic that goes back four coaches. With that said, I agree that their performance will likely be underwhelming.
November 24th, 2018 at 11:22 PM ^
4 coaches? Harbaugh, Hoke, Rodriguez, Carr.
Were you even alive in the Schembechler era? He would win the B1G every year, then lose to USC in the Rose Bowl. This is similar to Harbaugh who beats the teams he should beat, but loses to the really good teams in the big games. For better or worse, that's how Michigan has been during my lifetime. 1997 was delicious exception.
November 25th, 2018 at 1:06 PM ^
Yeah, I think people have romanticized the Bo era quite a bit. Even then two things that are true today were true:
1. In the early stages of the Ten Year War period, OSU had a high ceiling than us and would win nattys when they beat us.
2. Even when we were better than OSU, we weren't really heavily factoring into the national championship picture (and neither were they).
November 24th, 2018 at 9:08 PM ^
It is a good question. I just don't care right now.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:14 PM ^
I shouldn’t. But damn
November 24th, 2018 at 9:12 PM ^
If OSU doesn't get the playoff and goes to the Rose, maybe we'll get our long awaited matchup with LSU in whatever that corporate name bowl is in Orlando
November 25th, 2018 at 12:14 AM ^
The long awaited matchup of talented but overrated and perpetually underachieving programs? Right. Should be fun.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:15 PM ^
Patterson could come back and have everyone on offense back except Higdon. If Charbonnet lives up to the hype and Evans can get a single block in his life the offense will be lethal. Oh, and if Harbaugh fires Pep, and himself as OC. Anyway the point is the passing game could be incredible if we'd pass it more.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:17 PM ^
Gary and Bush are gone. Hill, Long and Hudson all made cases that they need to come back after today, but if they left I wouldn’t blame them. Gotta take care of themselves.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:22 PM ^
Agree, but how many of them pull a Christian McCafferey and sit out the bowl game?
November 24th, 2018 at 9:29 PM ^
Hudson has been a huge disappointment this year. It just seems like he made no impact plays this year, it also seems like they rarely used to him to blitz either.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:43 PM ^
I thought he was the best defender on the team last year. I've wondered if he bulked up a little too much and lost some of his speed and acceleration that made him such an effective defender last year. Then again, he really made his name against Minnesota, so could just be another case of a U-M player padding their stats against meaningless competition.
November 25th, 2018 at 12:19 AM ^
Yeah, he was way overrated last year thanks to racking up stats against Minnesota. I don't remember him making a single good play this entire year. OTOH, I don't remember him dorfing anything either?
Seemed like most of the bad plays on defense this year were made by Watson, Gil, the DTs and the occasional Kinnel missed tackle. And half of the bad plays came today.
November 24th, 2018 at 10:03 PM ^
I agree with this take. Hudson has been mostly invisible this season. I don't think Don Brown's viper is supposed to be invisible.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:35 PM ^
I think 2-3 guys won't play, though I honestly don't have a guess. I wouldn't blame any of them. I do expect Michigan to get a nice bowl, which might entice a couple of guys to give it a go on national tv. My guess is a number of defenders may not want their last college memory being run off the field.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:41 PM ^
I think your point about getting that last game of their college career taste out their mouths is a good one. We’ll see soon
November 24th, 2018 at 9:41 PM ^
After the way the “pro-bound” players played today, I’d be much more interested in seeing the next generation. They’ll be mostly checked out and protective of themselves if they do play in a meaningless bowl game anyway, so let the young, hungry players get some time
November 24th, 2018 at 9:48 PM ^
Quite a few. The season is shot. Nothing really left to prove unless they want a workout.
November 24th, 2018 at 9:52 PM ^
I think a repeat of USC last year is a possibility.
November 24th, 2018 at 10:20 PM ^
Don't see how Patterson is anywhere close to being NFL after his perf today.
Don't see any of them ready tbh.
November 24th, 2018 at 10:27 PM ^
Anyone pro eligible should absolutely sit out