bob griese

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yesterday on college football live rece asked bob a email form a fan who is the under rated team in college football and bob said Michigan and rece said he thinks there overrated.

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goody

August 6th, 2008 at 12:49 PM ^

Michigan should be ranked higher than 24th. It is still Michigan and that they will suprise a lot of people. Reece said, " You're jumping on the bandwagon early. Some people think that they're overrated." Reece never said that they were overrated, just stated that other people do. Also another tidbit: Reece - Alabama alum : Griese - Purdue alum Big Ten / SEC bias perhaps

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chitownblue (not verified)

August 6th, 2008 at 12:57 PM ^

Look. We have 11 returning starters from a four-loss team - only 2 on offense, and one of those is a tight end. If people don't see us as a top-25 team, that shouldn't be an earth-shattering revelation.

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SFBayAreaBlue

August 6th, 2008 at 1:33 PM ^

wins championships. the 97 offense was actually horrible. We needed woodson to give us life on that side of the ball. I hope mcguffie and the other freaky fast freshmen can at least get us past 20 points a game this year.

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Blue Durham

August 6th, 2008 at 2:44 PM ^

While I would'nt call the '97 offense horrible, it was an offense that didn't make a lot of mistakes, particularly turning the ball over.  If this years offense holds on to the ball, I think this defense can carry them a long way.

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chitownblue (not verified)

August 6th, 2008 at 1:58 PM ^

The 2007 offense wasn't "horrible", as evidenced that 7 starters would go on to start in the NFL. They didn't score many points, but Michigan also had possibly the most dominating defense in the modern era. They lacked a deep threat, because Streets couldn't catch that year (he had a cast on his hand), but made up for it by spreading the ball all over. Also, there is only one year since that Michigan ran for as many yards - Thomas's senior year.

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mjv

August 6th, 2008 at 2:28 PM ^

Was conservative and generally protected the ball (if you exclude the 3 first half int Griese threw). They scored enough, consumed the clock and new that the fate of the team was determined by the defense setting up short fields and keeping the other team off of the scoreboard. Thier role was to not screw it up. It was Tressel-ball before Tressel. Griese == Krentzel?? (spl?) Also, Bob Griese is probably a Michigan apologist given that Brian played for us, and it seemed like Keith Jackson and Griese were covering every Michigan game that year.

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bsb2002

August 6th, 2008 at 2:36 PM ^

not much flair aside from woodson, but it was fairly reliable and efficient. the 8 minute drive to basically kill off the rose bowl was a work of art

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SFBayAreaBlue

August 6th, 2008 at 8:23 PM ^

that the 96 offense was horrible. without biaka we were relying on guys like chris howard (bless his heart) and clarence williams. We didn't have many big plays and we sucked in the redzone. The 97 offense was basically the same but with three upgrades that made it go from 'suck' to 'good enough'. 1. Griese (and coaching i guess) got the team to play better in the redzone. 2. Anthony thomas started to bring it on as the season wore on (true frosh). 3. Woodson. From a talent standpoint, the offensive line was great, so was Floyd. but as a whole the offensive production was mediocre but at least it was a step up from the previous year. 'horrible' might have been an exaggeration but everyone and their grandma knows that team was all about the D.

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mjv

August 7th, 2008 at 11:38 AM ^

Griese was terrible prior to 97. He was awful in the bowl game loss to Alabama, to the point that his inability to manage the clock at the end of the first half, the terrible pick-six int he threw to a d-lineman and his falling down on a QB throw-back pass led directly to the loss. For him to come back in 1997 and play as well as he did, was quite a turn around. Part of me thinks that his run in with authority at Scorekeepers and the resulting punishment focused him on the opportunity he had available to him.

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dex

August 7th, 2008 at 1:27 PM ^

I dont know, but if someone with a history of alcohol related infractions showed up at work and said they hurt their ankle when they tripped over their dog, I'd go ahead and assume they were eating Taco Bell while walking up the stairs shitfaced and slipped on some melted cheese.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2002/0926/1437245.html

 

Also: " On May 5, Griese tripped on a steep driveway at teammate Terrell Davis' house and was knocked unconscious, bruising his face.  "

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SFBayAreaBlue

August 7th, 2008 at 1:03 PM ^

for griese to win the superbowl as a grizzled veteran who gets one last shot and then we can make a movie about him to replace 'rudy' as the default college football movie. Famous dad, growing up around the NFL. But has to walk on at michigan, is nearly kicked off the team, leads them to a MNC with his dad calling the game, replaces john elway, struggles, is a journeyman, and finally wins the big one. And the ending scene is him tossing the football around with his own kid.

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mjv

August 7th, 2008 at 1:53 PM ^

There was never anything definitive, but all of the various items: Scorekeepers, the tripping on the stairs, the DUI, a fight he had a teammates party (I seem to recall this); seemed to suggest he has a problem. Its too bad. It looked like he had everything going in the right direction. Obviously 1997. He was very good in 1999 (the year after Elway retired). I thought that he made the Pro Bowl that year. And then his tall WR gets hurt early in the next season and then the wheels fell off.

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hat

August 7th, 2008 at 8:48 PM ^

The "X guys went on to play in the NFL down the road, so that proves it was good" argument can be misleading. The fact that many of our '97 offensive starters eventually made the NFL does not necessarily mean that they were NFL-caliber during that season. For example, Hutchinson, Backus and Brandt were all redshirt freshmen. I don't think they were then at the level they would reach in 2000, their senior year.  Our starting RB (Chris Howard) was below-average for a starting Michigan back.  Our starting QB (Griese) threw for less than 200 yards per game.  We started one WR (Streets) with dislocated fingers on each hand, and another (Shaw) who never sniffed the NFL. Only at TE (Tuman) and FB (Floyd) were we really talented, IMO. 

I would say that the '97 offense was good at avoiding mistakes*, but otherwise was nothing special. Our leading rusher gained 938 yards. Our leading receiver gained 476 yards. Our overall ypg and ppg averages were very pedestrian. Not once all year did we score 40 points. Fortunately, we had one of the best D's in school history to carry most of the load.

(*Well, aside from the ND, Iowa and OSU games, anyway.)

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