Big Time College Football Violations Imminent for Top 10-12 Program?
So I know there have been some posts here about this in the past and I know its been buzzing on various message boards for some time.
However, I heard that Colin Cowherd was talking on his show today that its very close to coming out and involves a non-USC, non-Auburn top 10-12 program.
I don't know exactly what that means, but whatever.
Did anyone out there actually hear the show?
Anyone have any guesses or info on who it may be?
I have heard rumblings of Oregon but I'm not so sure.
Anyways, could be an interesting off season for someone.
EDIT: Just to clarify, the rumblings I heard about Oregon were exactly that, rumblings. Multiple people on message boards mentioned them, but no evidence was provided.
Candidates?
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
LSU
Miami
Michigan
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Ohio State (yes, please)
Oklahoma
Oregon
Penn State
Tennessee
Texas
UCLA
USC
Virginia Tech
Wisconsin
just for the sake of leeway, I'll post 9-13th of final season rankings.
2010
| 9 | Boise State | 12-1 | 1031 |
| 10 | Alabama | 10-3 | 961 |
| 11 | Nevada | 13-1 | 866 |
| 12 | Arkansas | 10-3 | 863 |
| 13 | Oklahoma State | 11-2 |
833 |
2009
| 9 | Penn State | 11-2 | 1016 |
| 10 | Virginia Tech | 10-3 | 953 |
| 11 | Oregon | 10-3 | 886 |
| 12 | Brigham Young | 11-2 | 806 |
| 13 | Georgia Tech | 11-3 | 768 |
2008
| 9 | Ohio State | 10-3 | 1013 |
| 10 | Oregon | 10-3 | 997 |
| 11 | Boise State | 12-1 | 938 |
| 12 | Texas Tech | 11-2 | 916 |
| 13 | Georgia | 10-3 | 903 |
2007
| 9 | Virginia Tech | 11-3 | 1096 |
| 10 | Texas | 10-3 | 962 |
| 10 | Boston College | 11-3 | 962 |
| 12 | Tennessee | 10-4 | 904 |
| 13 | Florida | 9-4 | 685 |
2006
| 9 | Auburn | 11-2 | 1112 |
| 10 | West Virginia | 11-2 | 1035 |
| 11 | Oklahoma | 11-3 | 933 |
| 12 | Rutgers | 11-2 | 884 |
| 13 | Texas | 10-3 | 772 |
2005
| 9 | Notre Dame | 9-3 | 1019 |
| 10 | Georgia | 10-3 | 994 |
| 11 | TCU | 11-1 | 937 |
| 12 | Florida | 9-3 | 817 |
| 12 | Oregon | 10-2 | 817 |
Duplicates:
Boise State(2), Oregon (3), Texas (2), Florida (2), Georgia (2), Virginia Tech (2).
Also noted Penn State was 8th in 2008 so they were on the cusp of being a duplicate.
Let me know if I missed one.
Duh, it must be BYU - they're dirty.
Every blue-chip recruit was promised at least 3 wives if he committed to the Cougars.
Plus a free two-year vacation to a far-away land.
This jackwagon is just trolling everyone on his radio show. Wake me up when a source says something.
It's Oregon. Their media is starting to do damage control:
Canzano blog: Oregon Ducks 'haven't heard a peep' about rumored NCAA football recruiting violations
Published: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 2:15 PM Updated: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 2:15 PM
Lots of national chatter today about a "top 10" college football program that is supposedly in hot water with the NCAA over recruiting violations.
I was contacted by several national college football writers after those early rumors began to point at the University of Oregon being that program.
Made some calls. A reliable source high in the athletic department said everyone there was "surprised" to hear about the rumors. They have not been contacted by the NCAA on this matter.
Said source: "We haven't heard a peep from the NCAA. If there was something going on, we'd typically hear about it way beforehand."
-- John Canzano
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This entire "haven't heard a peep from the NCAA" seems like doublespeak. Sports Illustrated (media source) conducted the investigation, and not the NCAA. This is scheduled to be the cover story for SI tomorrow (or at least that's what's been said). Twitter is starting to blow up about this.
If it is Oregon and the NCAA completes its investigation, I hope they offer a free pass for those who recently signed a LOI to the Ducks to attend another institution; I wouldn't mind a second bite at the Jake Fisher apple a la Seantrel Henderson to Miami.
Don't forget about Dior Mathis. Also, Terry Richardson's really, really, likes Oregon because of their track program.
As he should. Oregon has a really good track program with better fan support than at pretty much every university. Plus their track and field stadium is huge. Im rooting for Oregon to be the program because they do have a pretty big advantage in that department.
As he should. Oregon has a really good track program with better fan support than at pretty much every university. Plus their track and field stadium is huge.
Plus the pay is better. Allegedly.
Color me very unsurprised if it's Oregon. They've been punching above their weight in recruiting for some time now, and I can't believe it's all because they have a fancy locker room and neon jerseys. I'd bet it would extend to their basketball program, too. I remember Malik Hairston (from Detroit's Renaissance High) picking Oregon out of the blue.
The story as I heard it (at least as Cowherd presented it) was that a major publication had investigated and was about to break the story. He didn't refer to an NCAA investigation that I heard.
Seriously, fuck. Oregon tanking does me no good, I don't even really hate them because I don't really care about them, and if anything this opens the door for USC to dominate all over again. And I really don't want USC to do that - they needed one big program in their conference to keep them in check and Oregon has done that pretty well lately.
How pissed would you be if you're a Pac Ten team and you get the book thrown at you after USC got off (relatively) easy?
What if your the Pac-10 conference about ready to go to two divisions and in your first year both division winners (USC and Oregon) are on probation. Could they even play in the title game? If they could, the winner might not be able to go to the bowl game. Would the title game essentially be the 2nd place finishers in each division?
That's actually a really good and funny point. If Oregon and USC are both on bowl bans, and they each win their respective divisions, what happens? Other than the media ripping the Pac Ten to shreds, of course.
Do you send the second place team from each division? That said, if both are on bowl bans but only one team makes it, do they get to go? Let's say USC makes the Pac 12 champ game this fall - do you let them play it? Because win or lose, whoever they play will still get the BCS bid. That's some funny stuff. Yeah, let the NCAA shit all over the Pac Ten, I'm getting more and more OK with this.
It will really help when I get in arguments with stupid west coasters about who's better, the Big Ten or Pac Ten.
I think the bans are postseason bans, not just bowl games. So if both teams have postseason bans niether would play in a confrence championship game.
That actually might be what it takes to nail USC to the wall. A bunch of pissed off Duck fans with an axe to grind might just get things done.
Wouldn't the ncaa need to find new violations by USC? I don't think the ncaa could increase the severity of USC's penalties for the already disclosed violations, could they?
It would be a lot cooler if they did.
How great would that be - "On second thought USC, how about 60 scholarships and 5 years of bowl ban? Yeah, we like that better."
Chris Low (ESPN SEC blogger) said the NCAA is stilll going after Kiffin for his time at Tennessee:
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/20226/kiffin-not-vols-real-target-for-ncaa
Might yet be more for USC in the works.
I think the worst the NCAA could do to USC for infractions that Kiffin committed while at Tennessee is to hit them with a 'show cause' notice, which requires them to justify why they are employing Kiffin and would likely result in USC firing him (which is what everyone expects to happen with Bruce Pearl at Tennessee). I don't think they'd get hit with additional sanctions, though the schadenfreude would be through the roof.
Oh, this is an SI story. This must mean that Rosenberg has done some more "investigative reporting." Can't wait to see this hack job.
Oregon feels right with the lovably (?) garish uniforms and facilities, massive stream of Nike-related money, and recent string of athletes who have had impressive on/of the field problems (Blount, Masoli, James). It would be awfully neat if it was ND though.
Someone mentioned MSU in error. The rumor clearly states that it's a top 10-12 PRO-GRAM.
HEY-OHhhhhhh
(now back to your regularly scheduled program).
Assuming Oregon, would they be repeat offenders? They were on probation for the recruitment of JJ Arrington in 2005. Not that it really matters, but it's a thought.
Ok, I know, uncredible source here, but Bleacher Report mention it might be Ohio State. They claim its on the Bucknuts.com website, but I couldn't find any article or post unless it was on the premium board which I can't read. So take it with a grain of salt, but oh how sweet would that be.
Ohio State Football NCAA Violations: Latest Reports and Rumors
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/550065-ohio-state-football-ncaa-viol…
Not to bust your post or anything, but earlier I saw something about Alabama on bleacher report. How they have been a repeat offender and the death penalty was talked about, oh yea and it as written by someone who appears to be an Auburn fan, go figure.
The article was dated December 21st and was about tattoos and gold pants.
Ha, so you're right. I was scouring for news and it popped up next to the Oregon article. Forgot to check date.
*hangs head in shame*
ANY FRIGGIN TEAM IN THE NATION, or none at all and it's all a lot of smoke up our collective asses, or anything else, and maybe we should all SHUT UP TILL THE FREAKIN' REPORT COMES OUT OR DOESN'T COME OUT! GAH!
If you're that bothered by it, don't read the thread. No one put a gun to your head. it's that simple. We're bored and some of us like to speculate. And we're adding to an existing thread, not creating new threads over and over. So really, what harm is it?
STOP THE POINTLESS SPECULATION!
Urban Meyer just retired, and pretty early by all acounts...
Here's what the majorit of rumors have apparently suggested:
1) It's a top "10-12" program
I think the fact that these rumors have been consistent in that it's a top 10-12 program, which to me implies that it's not a program that would be considered among the elite of the elite. Of course, it's kind of difficult to seperate the "top 5" programs from the "6-12" programs.
2) It's an investigation into recruiting violations
This doesn't really narrow things down too much, but I think we can assume that whatever program it is has recruited pretty well recently.
3) The investigation has been conducted by and will be reported by a media source, likely a newspaper.
I interpret this to mean that it probably doesn't involve a program currently under NCAA investigation and that a major newspaper is likely involved.
Now, we all know that a major newspaper reporting major NCAA violations should be taken with a serious grain of salt. This could simply be an instance of an agenda-driven attempt to bring down a coach and/or program.
Perhaps is the international relations scholar in me, but the takedown of an elite NCAA program could fundamentally alter the CFB landscape in ways we can't predict.
a tp osu karma slam?
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/01/cowherd-major-progr…
Talks how the tips he has heard eliminate oregon from any rumors.
I heard they also got their own planet.
Supposedly it is Sports Illustrated working on the story.
They just posted an article on college football and crime
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/02/27/cfb.crime…
Don't know if that is the article being discussed.
Here is more on the rumors:
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/01/cowherd-major-progr…
I would love it to be Oregon, but they seem to be ruled out, so I hope it is LSU.