Basketball Hello Posts, 2018 Update

Submitted by Maize.Blue Wagner on March 5th, 2018 at 10:52 PM

About a year ago, I made a post to look back at the hello posts of the current basketball team. I thought I would update with the posts for the three freshman on this year's team. 

Jordan Poole - October 23, 2015

I have no idea who the picture is of at the top of this post. Surely it's not Jordan Poole. Besides Poole, the only other offer in the 2017 class at this point is Jaren Jackson. 

Eli Brooks - July 20, 2016

Brooks was a lifelong fan of Villanova, picked up an offer from them...and then chose Michigan. At this point, Jackson and Kyle Young are both mentioned as potential additions to the class, along with Jamal Cain. Brian Bowen and Kris Wilkes are also mentioned, sure. 

Isaiah Livers - August 7, 2016

This is a great:

Even if DJ Wilson emerges as a viable option at the four this season, Livers could see plenty of time as a backup before stepping into the starting lineup as a junior—Beilein will find minutes for a wing with scoring touch who can guard opposing power forwards.

Also, this is a great set of comments: 

August 7th, 2016 at 6:59 PM
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Has a little Carmelo Anthony to his game.
 
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Has a little Carmelo Anthony to his game.




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August 7th, 2016 at 9:22 PM
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So you're saying he'll lead
 
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So you're saying he'll lead us to a national championship his freshman year? I'll take it!




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Comments

Mike Damone

March 5th, 2018 at 11:12 PM ^

having Poole and Livers on our team.  Will be interesting to see how Brooks fits in, with Z solidifying his leadership and a talented Dejulius coming this Fall...

ThatTCGuy

March 6th, 2018 at 8:34 AM ^

You have to think that Eli will be one of the first victims of attrition, right? He already wasn't seeing minutes over Z and Jaaron. Now you have one of the best PG recruits JB has had coming in...

Mike Damone

March 6th, 2018 at 9:03 AM ^

but who knows.  He handled the job for us admirably early in the season when Z was finding his way, and has a lot of upside.  I would guess he waits for Dejulius to come in and see how he compares, evaluate things over the summer, and go from there.

If Dejulius manages the jump to the next leve as expected, what a great problem to have - too many quality point guards on the team.  Can't remember EVER having that problem on a Michigan team, going back to the 70's...

stephenrjking

March 6th, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^

Jumping the gun a bit here, we don't know how things will pan out next year. Brooks was good enough to start early this year; given a year of development, who knows where he'll be?

Note that in the Livers hello post, old user Lanknows put up projections for the starting five this year. They weren't absurd, given how far ahead it was, but something that was notable was that it was accurate in part because it didn't factor in DJ Wilson.

Except he had Wilson as third string, sitting on the bench. Not as an NBA first rounder.

Let's let it play out. Maybe Brooks is the first guy behind Simpson, and Dejulius plays serious minutes at the 2. Maybe someone gets hurt. Maybe someone unexpected goes pro. Waaaay too early to suggest a transfer for a guy who has already shown that he can get on the floor, who easily showed as much this year as Simpson showed last year.

I trust Beilein to get this right.

Mr Miggle

March 6th, 2018 at 9:14 AM ^

What's our depth at SG look like for next season? There's plenty of opportunity for him, especially if he takes a step up like many of our players do between their freshman and soph seasons. 

I don't know how much we should bank on DeJulius as a freshman. Playing PG for Beilein is not an easy transition from HS (or another college program).

Mike Damone

March 6th, 2018 at 9:27 AM ^

point! (No pun intended).  With MAAR graduating, and Dejulius the only pure guard recruit, there certainly may be room for a quality 4th guard.  And that is assuming Dejulius makes the jump pretty quickly - which is a HUGE assumption.  Z and Walton have shown that - sometimes you need a year or two to find your way in college hoops.  Brooks can certainly get playing time next year if he continues to improve...

TrueBlue2003

March 6th, 2018 at 3:42 PM ^

because he started right away as a freshman over the more experienced Spike Albrecht. And Dejulius gets compared quite a bit to Walton with that deadly pull up jumper.

Spike did have limitations that Brooks doesn't have though, so I do expect Brooks to beat out Dejulius to be the backup at least at the start of next season.  We'll see what happens from there. 

Good problem to have when your starter is an established fingernail eating pitbull and you might have two good options off the bench.

RobM_24

March 5th, 2018 at 11:32 PM ^

Livers is already a solid starter. I don't know if he has that Alpha mentality in him, but he's, at minimum, a solid starter that can do a little of everything. Poole has the talent to be a star, but right now his throttle is stuck on max speed and he's not quite sure where he's going. His first step is one of the quickest I can remember for a wing. He just needs Beilein to steer him, and help him understand what to do after he blows by his man. Right now he's just looking to get offense for himself. He'll learn that the whole floor can be opened up by his ability to blow by his man off the dribble.

Mr Miggle

March 6th, 2018 at 8:53 AM ^

I'd certainly expect KBD to go too. That's their two stars and and a third starter from a team already badly lacking depth. They will have some talent, but I expect a rebuilding year in Columbus.

If Ethan Happ comes back, Wisconsin should look more like a typical Wisconsin team. They lost a lot to injuries this season. It remains to be seen if Gard can get as much out of them as Bo Ryan.

TrueBlue2003

March 6th, 2018 at 3:50 PM ^

they have a solid class coming in (two 4-stars and two 3-stars) and a couple of returning pieces in the Wesson bros, Young, CJ Jackson, but they lose Tate and Williams and KBD is gonna go pro so they'll almost certainly be worse.  Probably not worse than a .500ish conference team that makes it into the tourney as a 9-11 seed.

Mr Miggle

March 6th, 2018 at 9:47 AM ^

the combine. After Jackson and Bridges, I'm not seeing any candidates to leave early in the Big Ten that look like sure first round picks. There are a fair number of prospects like Carr who could go in the 2nd round, maybe late first round with a good showing. Some will probably take the plunge and others will return. Bates-Diop is the only one I feel confident will go, but I'd be surprised if there weren't at least a couple more.

jmblue

March 6th, 2018 at 10:42 AM ^

I used to wonder what this team would be like with DJ Wilson still on it.  The crazy thing is that we're not that far off that level now.

 

MW147

March 6th, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^

I kept wondering how awesome we would have been if Bamba had come. He and Mo together would be unstoppable. But after this weekend, I'm not wondering any more. This team has been great, and a lot of fun to watch. 

The 2019 class should be very interesting. With all of the crap coming down from the FBI, does a program with a spotless reputation benefit? Maybe we attract 1 or 2 of those 5 stars that usually go elsewhere. 

Steves_Wolverines

March 6th, 2018 at 2:46 PM ^

For me, my thoughts/feeling go like this:

High ranking recruit with offer from Michigan and possible interest, time to get excited!! Examples include Bamba, RJ Barrett, Brian Bowen, Jaren Jackson, Tyus Battle, Jalen Brunson, Jaylen Brown, Devin Booker, and Trevon Bluiett, among others.

Then they lose interest and go elsewhere, and all mostly succeed

We're left wondering what could have been. Switch out Aubrey Dawkins for Devin Booker, or Kam Chatman for Trevon Bluiett. 

Then a year goes by, and we see players like Rahk, Duncan, Simpson, Walton, DJ, Mo, etc etc just take off and destroy the competition. 

Then we're left wondering how great players like Jaylen Brown, Brunson, Battle etc could have been if they learned under Beilein for 2 years.

Then I almost get to a point where I feel bad for them, especially Bamba, because I feel like Beilein could have worked with Bamba and refined him into a easy 1st round NBA pick. But it seems like his development at Texas hasn't done much, and he probably won't make a career in the NBA.

TLDR: I start feeling bad for the players that don't pick Michigan, because I feel like they could have become a much better basketball player here than where they decided to go. 

TrueBlue2003

March 6th, 2018 at 4:00 PM ^

to be a top 5 pick this year.  He would have been a top 5 pick if he decided to take a year to study with monks in the Himalaya's.  And he was playing great before injuring his toe.

You can feel bad for him for choosing to be on a mediocre team for his one college season, but he's going to get every opportunity necessary to succeed in the NBA.  If he doesn't have a great career, it'll be because of other reasons, it won't be because of his choice to play one season at Texas.